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Another great essay from The Guardian about Palestine and Israel and reality. (Original Post) MMBeilis Jul 2024 OP
Interesting that he makes the case that Gaza's civilians are actually valid military targets. Lucky Luciano Jul 2024 #1
Where did the article argue that civilians are legitimate targets?? AloeVera Jul 2024 #2
I quoted the article in the exact part... Lucky Luciano Jul 2024 #3

Lucky Luciano

(11,408 posts)
1. Interesting that he makes the case that Gaza's civilians are actually valid military targets.
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 03:27 PM
Jul 2024

“ Hamas is an indigenous movement in Palestine. It draws support from civilians; its combatants can disappear and find sustenance among other residents of Gaza. Evidence shows Israel’s unbridled assault has caused an increase in support for the Islamist movement among Palestinians, enhancing its resilience.”

AloeVera

(1,840 posts)
2. Where did the article argue that civilians are legitimate targets??
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 07:49 PM
Jul 2024

He did not. Alarming though that you make such a leap of logic:

Some civilians support Hamas. Therefore all civilians in Gaza are legitimate military targets, so it's acceptable to kill them.

This is the definition of collective punishment, a war crime.

Also, you do realize that half of Gaza's civilians are kids, right?

Lucky Luciano

(11,408 posts)
3. I quoted the article in the exact part...
Mon Jul 8, 2024, 09:52 PM
Jul 2024

…where it specifically says that Hamas fighters find material support and comfort from civilians. To me, that means those civilians effectively ARE Hamas and deserve their full comeuppance for being fucking savages. I was actually on their side pre October 7. Not anymore…at all. They can take their Ghengis Khan methodologies and shove it up their collective asses.

As for other collateral damage, yes, war is hell. Specifically targeting kids, though, I would absolutely agree is a war crime. Killing Hamas fighters and those who support them (which means they are also Hamas) is fully righteous even if there is collateral damage.

Putin specifically targeted a kids hospital…yeah that had no military justification at all. War crime. Hang him.

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