Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumKUDOS to Rep Jayapal saying that challenging misdeeds by the Israeli government isn't antisemitic.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal was ready for the question about her critique of Israel. She made it clear that being critical of Israels evil deeds does not make it antisemitic.
Blog Post: https://egbertowillies.com/2023/11/06/kudos-to-rep-jayapal-saying-that-challenging-misdeeds-by-the-israeli-government-isnt-antisemitic/
Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/politicsdoneright/episodes/Medicare-Advantage-using-AI-to-screw-patients--Scalise-implodes-on-This-Week--Biden-Polls-e2bibom/a-aais2u1
marybourg
(13,171 posts)madaboutharry
(41,303 posts)Its all about framing the narrative. Evil is a powerful word. And it has been used to describe Jews for centuries.
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)While we are at it.
marybourg
(13,171 posts)charge her with Islamophobia.
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)IronLionZion
(46,926 posts)A person shouldn't get a pass on evil deeds. There are far right members of Netanyahu's cabinet and the Knesset who are absolutely promoting hate and inciting violence. We don't like that when it's Trump's people doing that here in the US.
marybourg
(13,171 posts)Goddessartist
(2,067 posts)Are you going to call me antisemitic?
That's a very hard reach.
marybourg
(13,171 posts)other nation, has the right and duty to destroy an enemy sworn to its destruction. It is not limited to killing only as many as the enemy killed; it is entitled to try to wipe out any ongoing enemy.
If that enemy hides among the civilian population it pretends to be championing, in its homes, schools and mosques, it is the evil force and Israel does not thereby lose its right to preserve its existence. To single Israel out, among all the nations, as being evil for fighting for its very existence is anti- semitic, in my opinion.
Goddessartist
(2,067 posts)Any criticism of Israel is anti semitic to you.
Israel does not have the right to wipe out an entire people.
Their actions are evil like Russia's actions are evil.
Israel is committing genocide.
Supporting bombing hospitals and schools and refugee camps are war crimes.
My Jewish mil agrees with me as does her entire family.
Chautauquas
(4,471 posts)stopdiggin
(12,752 posts)as 'evil deeds'. (not a lot of prosecutions going on there - that we know of) The theft of Palestinian land (via illegal settlement) would be considered - at the very least criminal, in most civilized countries - if not perhaps outright evil. I'm not sure if I'm going to get hung up on that particular word. So, in the larger context ...
No, criticizing Israel for its 'misdeeds' is not antisemitism - and further, it never has been. On the other hand, we have seen plenty of outright and abject antisemitism (from numerous sources) over the past month or so. And we don't have any trouble identifying THAT either ..
Lithos
(26,451 posts)However, such a qualification provides shade for those who are antisemitic.
Behind the Aegis
(54,840 posts)Beastly Boy
(11,090 posts)Her bias is too transparent.
IronLionZion
(46,926 posts)why should Israeli government get a pass on their misdeeds?
Beastly Boy
(11,090 posts)That's essentially what Pramila is doping.
IronLionZion
(46,926 posts)The people dying, being wounded, losing their homes, being evicted from hospitals during the bombings don't look like Hamas. Looks like a lot of civilians and children. If they were Hamas being killed, the Israeli government would show the photos to the world as proof.
RainWalker
(605 posts)She said it perfectly.