Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumAhed Tamimi: The Mandela of Palestine?
http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/ahed-tamimi-the-mandela-of-palestineApparently, Ahed is an existential threat to the state of Israel, and perhaps theyre right. Israeli commentators went ballistic at the viral video, lamenting how she emasculated the soldiers who showed such remarkable restraint in not beating her with the butt of their guns, or just shooting her like her cousin. Not long after, she was seized by security forces, and has since been charged with assault, and her detention extended. No word yet on what the soldier who shot her cousin will be charged with (nor will it ever come).
The first time I met Ahed Tamimi was about five years ago when she was around 11 years old. She wasnt yet famous (or infamous, depending on your point of view); it was before the video of her threatening an Israeli soldier with her tiny fists, fearless and filled with fury, hit the internet. But it was already clear what she would become: a fighter. She was a hero-in-the-making; a star at the early stages of going nova. Not quite exploding yet but only a matter of time and nothing could stop her. Not her parents, not the rest of her family, not the Israelis unless they killed her.
Like everyone else who meets Ahed I was in her village, Nabi Saleh, to witness weekly demonstrations against the Occupation. Nabi Saleh is a small and picturesque village in the central West Bank overlooking a valley with an important spring. In a normal world, or at least a better one, Id be visiting with my kids, hiking in the hills, swimming in the spring before settling down to a nice dinner in a family-run restaurantmost of the West Bank is so stunningly beautiful it could compete with Switzerland for both the vistas and the food. But the world and certainly the West Bank are far from normal; and I wouldnt take my kids there now, not yet anyway. Theyre too young to experience what Ahed and the other kids of the village, and every other square meter of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem (not to mention too many refugee camps, from Tripoli to Yarmouk) have lived through for over half a century.
For those who don't know, Ahed Tamimi is the Palestinian teenager who is facing a possible twenty year sentence in an Israeli prison for slapping(not even hitting, just slapping) the IDF soldiers who had just shot her cousin in the head, after invading her family's property.
Twenty years, for a reaction pretty much any human being would have to something like that being done to a member of their family.
It's going to be interesting to hear the arguments for why slapping a soldier who just put your cousin in a coma by shooting him in the head is somehow a threat to Israeli security.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)in your own front yard, when any of us, seeing such a brutal and unjustified act, could easily react in exactly the same way?
There's no universe in which that soldier is, in any sense, a victim.
BTW...everyone here agrees that "Jewish Lives Matter".
It's inappropriate to imply that that idea is in any way subject to debate in this group.
Nothing Netanyahu is doing protects Jewish lives. The Occupation doesn't protect those lives. The settlements in the West Bank don't protect those lives. Neither does anything Netanyahu does to Gaza.
All any of that is about is taking land for the SAKE of indulging an ideological fixation with taking land. None of it can lead to "victory" victory in a military sense is impossible in this conflict and would produce nothing but ugliness and retribution if it was possible) and you know perfectly well that none of it can ever lead to anything resembling peace.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)because it sounds as if you're saying there are people who regularly post here who don't care if Jewish people are harmed or killed.
There are alt-right types who might not think those lives matter, but nobody on the progressive side of the spectrum would agree with the kind of monsters who would feel that way.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:07 AM - Edit history (2)
that the positions anyone on DU takes about the actions of the government of a country where the majority population happened to be black were a reflection of whether posters here want black people to stay alive.
Nobody here would claim, for example, that criticisms of the governments of Haiti or Zimbabwe equates to support for white supremacism or indifference to the physical safety of the black community.
On the other hand, it's commonly implied that people who question what the Israeli government does to Palestinians either don't give a damn about the physical safety of people who are Jewish or secretly wish those people harm.
Everyone on DU is against antisemitism and against the agenda of the alt-right.
(on edit)i've changed the word to "inappropriate", rather than "demagogic".
sabbat hunter
(6,891 posts)it is like having a #policelivesmatter signature or anything similar. I generally agree with you grossprofit, but on this one I think you are wrong.