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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 01:39 AM Dec 2016

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shira

(30,109 posts)
2. BDS isn't just about settlements so why are you repeating this bullshit?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:33 AM
Dec 2016

BDS advocates compare Israel to S.Africa, for example. They oppose a Jewish state (anti-zionists), call for full right of return, and support grossly racist "resistance" groups like Hamas & Hezbollah. They are against all normalization/cooperation between Palestinians and Jews.

Mondoweiss, ElectronicIntifada, SJP, JVP, ISM, CodePink, PSC, BLM, & the Muslim Brotherhood all support the above as you do too. You're a big fan of these groups.

So BDS is not just about settlements. Those who boycott just the settlements are PeaceNow, Gush Shalom & Uri Avnery, Peter Beinart, Bernard Avishai, Michael Walzer...but since they aren't anti-Zionists who oppose normalization, support Hamas, & trash Israel by calling it Apartheid, they're too soft in your opinion.

Response to shira (Reply #2)

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. Are you the same little Tich who has a low opinion of BDS?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:50 AM
Dec 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134126211#post12

12. I still think that some consensus can be salvaged from our discussion - we both seem to have a very

low opinion of the BDS Movement and what they stand for...


If so, why are you promoting BDS? Can you make up your mind please?

Response to shira (Reply #3)

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
9. What a load. Who pushes BDS if not the BDS movement?
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:30 AM
Dec 2016

It's also highly disingenuous to distance yourself from the BDS movement when you agree with practically every part of it...

You're an anti-zionist, you support Right of Return, you think Israel is Apartheid, you support Palestinian "popular resistance", non-normalization b/w Jews and Palestinians, and boycotting Israel for some other reason other than settlements (cultural, the Gaza war, boycotting Matisyahu or other perceived racists, etc).

Unless you can show me a list of companies that boycott Israel, my argument in post #2 still stands.


Huh? Are you arguing these companies support BDS against Israeli settlements but do not subscribe to the BDS movement itself? I've pointed you to Gush Shalom and Uri Avnery, an example of people boycotting settlements who are against BDS. What makes you think these companies are different than Gush Shalom? Gush Shalom doesn't do BDS, so what makes you think these companies are doing it?

Response to shira (Reply #9)

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
11. It's not BDS if it's only against settlements. You know that.
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:11 AM
Dec 2016

That's like saying Gush Shalom and Uri Avnery are for BDS when they're adamantly opposed to it.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. Thank you, New York
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:14 AM
Dec 2016

Unless these very same companies are also boycotting China, they're nothing but sniveling hypocrites. Meanwhile, it's good to know which to stay away from.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
6. True, these hypocrites wouldn't dream of boycotting any other country...
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:39 PM
Dec 2016

But when it comes to Jews, sure.

They can ESAD.

 

TuslaUltra

(75 posts)
5. good for Cuomo! showing why we voted him in,
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 01:54 PM
Dec 2016

even tho I disagree with him on a few things!

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