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Related: About this forumAbbas repeats debunked claim that rabbis called to poison Palestinian water
Not only did the "moderate" Abbas go medieval antisemitic blood-libeling against Jews, the EU gave him a standing ovation for it.
Abbas's remarks did not appear on the official transcript issued by his office, suggesting he may have spoken off the cuff as he condemned Israeli actions against Palestinians amid stalled peace talks.
"Only a week ago, a number of rabbis in Israel announced, and made a clear announcement, demanding that their government poison the water to kill the Palestinians," Abbas said.
"Isn't that clear incitement to commit mass killings against the Palestinian people?"
Abbas, who received a standing ovation from EU lawmakers after his speech, gave no source for his information -- and there has been no evidence over the past week of any call by Israeli rabbis to poison Palestinian water.
http://www.france24.com/en/20160623-haaretz-abbas-repeats-debunked-claim-rabbis-called-poison-palestinian-water?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_user&aef_campaign_date=2016-06-23
It gets better. In the very same speech, the "moderate" Abbas resorted to extortion...
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Abbas-Stop-global-terrorism-by-ending-the-Israeli-occupation-of-Palestine-457549
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)While he's not even close to the level of incitement that comes from the Israeli government, it's still too much.
shira
(30,109 posts)....think about the EU giving him a standing ovation afterwards?
Violet_Crumble
(36,142 posts)This article is really good and discusses the incitement on both sides of the conflict...
Israels political rhetoric has fanned (or reflected) what one Israeli journalist recently described as a combination of public incitement, rabbinical edicts, Facebook insults, chants by some sections of supporters of the Beitar Jerusalem football team, and prevalent anti-Arab sentiment. At the same time, the Israeli government is reported to have funded various right-wing movements seeking to alter the status quo on the Temple Mount / Haram al-Sharif, as well as non-profits promoting price-tag attacks against Palestinians. The recent execution of an incapacitated Palestinian assailant in Hebron by an IDF soldier and immolation of a Palestinian family in Duma are but two of the inevitable manifestations of these dynamics. Incitement it would seem, is a two-way street in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
http://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_why_incitement_runs_both_ways_in_israel_palestine_6087
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Fortunately, while the Israeli and Palestinian leaders represent their people, they're not representative of them.
It's really disappointing to hear Abbas say those things, and it only confirms my belief that he's not the right leader for his people. That the current Israeli leadership isn't good for Israel is a given. However, it doesn't take away the fact that both Palestinians and Israelis deserve equal rights, prosperity and peace.
I'm bookmarking www.ecfr.eu
shira
(30,109 posts)Praising and rewarding terrorists for murdering Jews.
It's about time you realized that.
OTOH, you mention Israel's leadership isn't good. Okay that's fine, but name an Israeli leadership that has been good for Israel since 1948. It's my belief that this isn't about Netanyahu to you, it's about all Israeli leadership from the start. Prove me wrong.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Both could have achieved a two-state solution, which is the main issue here. Both were perhaps not ideal leaders, but they were close to achieving a two-state solution, which could have ushered Israel into the post-occupation era.
shira
(30,109 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)....aimed their "incitement" at terrorists. Big difference there.
Violet_Crumble
(36,142 posts)To anyone who Is fond of the Arab = terrorist broad brush I could see how they could defend the hatemongers mentioned as well as defend their incitement. The ADL has in the past spoken out against the incitement of one of them, the other two have been rightly condemned for their incitement by left wing Israeli politicians.
I've got no patience for those who complain about incitement from one side only and try to justify it from the side they support. All incitement and hatred should be categorically condemned, imo
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Source: Jerusalem Post
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas on Saturday morning retracted accusations that Israeli rabbis had called for the poisoning of Palestinian wells.
The PA president had made the unsubstantiated charge in an address Thursday to the European Parliament, prompting harsh condemnation from Israel, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accusing Abbas of propagating blood libel, referring to anti-Semitic allegations against Jews that arose in the Middle Ages.
The retraction, which was issued by the Palestine Liberation Organization, which Abbas chairs, said Abbas rejected all claims that accuse him and the Palestinian people of offending the Jewish religion.
After it has become evident that the alleged statements by a rabbi on poisoning Palestinian wells, which were reported by various media outlets, are baseless, President Mahmoud Abbas has affirmed that he didnt intend to do harm to Judaism or to offend Jewish people around the world, the statement read.
Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Abbas-retracts-charge-that-rabbis-called-for-poisoning-Palestinian-water-457690
shira
(30,109 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)A speech can sometimes give a different impression when first heard than when it's dissected later. And it was probably not obvious for most listeners that Abbas was promoting an anti-Semitic lie...
shira
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30 seconds of standing ovation, applause.
Not one word of condemnation.
Same Europe, same as the old Europe. It would help if you stopped automatically coming to the defense of racists.
shira
(30,109 posts)I wonder what it would take for you to acknowledge Mondoweiss is a hate site?
shira
(30,109 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)It's not one of those "yes, but..." retractions like Netanyahu and Livingstone made. End of story.
shira
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Now imagine Netanyahu maliciously incited against Arabs and was applauded by it.
And then imagine he "apologized", but no leaders called him out for incitement.
Yeah...
No big deal - he apologized, right?
shira
(30,109 posts)Abbas didn't really know what he was doing, even though he incites hate with libels all the time. As to the EU lawmakers who applauded him & have never condemned the incitement.....whatever.
A little sanity in the comments section. I'm sure that poster will be pilloried soon by the Jew hating hordes there...
shira
(30,109 posts)Inspiring address by Pres. #Abbas to #EPlenary - #EU supports aspiration by large majority of #Palestinians for peace and reconciliation
https://twitter.com/ep_president/status/745932784775102464
shira
(30,109 posts)....nor apologize for EU standing ovation for Abbas afterwards.