Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumMore BDS BS - for a Lebanese writer
who DARED give an interview with an Israeli station.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/205968/bds-targets-lebanese-born-writer
Maalouf now finds himself in the cross-hairs of the BDS movement in Lebanon. His crime? Giving an interview to an Israeli television channel, i24. There, Maalouf speaks of culture as a means of normalizing relations between Israel and the Arab world. A no-brainer, one might have thought. Culture is, after all, normal and liquid. The liquid is always in transit. The life of culture is insulted by borders. It acknowledges them only to overflow them.
But in BDSs jaundiced eyes anti-normalization is mandatory. In their official statement of purpose, anti-normalization includes:
opposition to
events, projects, publications, films, or exhibitions that are designed to bring together Palestinians/Arabs and Israelis so they can present their respective narratives or perspectives, or to work toward reconciliation, overcoming barriers, etc., without addressing the root causes of injustice and the requirements of justice.
On some American campuses, anti-normalization is the reason anti-Zionist groups give for refusing to debate people with whom they disagree.
The bds people are vile and nothing but Jew haters. Now they spread their hatred to anyone who doesn't hate Jews and actually wants to find a solution to the I/P issue.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)If, so . . . opposition to his interview might be more centered on the fact that he holds himself out as a Middle Eastern "moderate" (and is held out as such by those who deny Palestinian legitimacy) based on the place of his birth (Lebanon). He, and his supporters, (as did the OP) repeatedly fail to mention that he is not Muslim (his upbringing was Christian).
This tends to make people feel he is attempting to lend credibility to his decidedly anti-Muslim and anti-Palestinian views (which attack even moderate Muslims) by deceptively allowing the uninformed to believe they are coming from a Muslim.
In other words, this is not a situation where a Muslim is being criticized by BDS for daring to speak to a Jewish publication (an obviously intolerant position), but rather where he is being criticized for acting like he is speaking for Muslims when he is not.
Fozzledick
(3,890 posts)and for daring to speak in favor of peace and cultural understanding as a Lebanese Arab.
I see.
Uponthegears
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Dont bet on it. Maalouf left Lebanon at the start of the civil war in 1975. And exiles, however brilliant, have a remarkable habit of recalling their original homes and social history with devastating accuracy look at James Joyce but losing all touch with the political reality and suffering of the countries they have left behind. Here, the name of Auden comes to mind. But no, Maalouf is unique. Thats why he is as untouchable as he is immortal. But given the frightening political leadership in Jerusalem, Israeli television might not be the best way to bridge any cultural gaps just at the moment.
Fozzledick
(3,890 posts)He's not being criticized by BDS merely for being a Christian Lebanese Arab who dares to speak in favor of peace and cultural understanding, but rather for being a Christian Lebanese Arab who has committed the unforgivable crime of not hating Israel.
I think that's more than enough nuance.
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)Everyone who opposes Netanyahu's genocide "hates Israel" or is it that they hate wanton violations of human rights?
Hmmmm
Fozzledick
(3,890 posts)Anyone so biased and fanatic as to falsely accuse Israel of genocide is clearly acting on a hateful extremist agenda.
Not nuanced at all.
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)Between 8 July and 27 August, more than 2,100 Palestinians were killed in the Gaza Strip, along with 66 Israeli soldiers and seven civilians in Israel.
The UN says the vast majority of the deaths were civilian.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28439404
Fozzledick
(3,890 posts)Do you really want to defend them? Keep digging...
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)Fozzledick
(3,890 posts)use of child soldiers, using civilians as human shields and deliberately drawing defensive fire on them for propaganda purposes.
But I'm guessing you already know all that and have no objection.
Thanks for proving my point: I was right the first time. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=130203
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Rule 1: You must always say negative things about Israel.
Robert Fisk:
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Fozzledick
(3,890 posts)I thought there was a requirement for a "graphic content warning".