Clinton super PAC expanded war chest with $3 million from Sabans

[ericson00]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-mega-donor-fundraising-223431

Why did I put this in I/P? Saban is known to be very pro-Israel, and a great guy. He also shows that support for Israel is not just limited to Sheldon Adelson.

The support of Saban, who honours the Jewish State, is another reason I'm With Her.

[azurnoir]

1. why yes and in fact not only has Saban partnered with Sheldon Adelson in the recent past

Saban's wife is on the board of directors of the Clinton Foundation and Saban himself pledged millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary was SoS

[oberliner]

2. Haim Saban Leaves Pro-Israel Coalition Over Sheldon Adelson's Right-Wing Push

Excerpt:

“He didn’t like that Adelson was pushing the group towards funding right-wing groups that are only speaking in a right-wing echo chamber — and not towards pushing a message that would actually change hearts and minds,” said an official with a Jewish organization involved in the initiative to counter the movement on college campuses to boycott, divest from and sanction Israel.

http://forward.com/news/israel/321793/haim-saban-dumps-pro-israel-coalition-over-sheldon-adelsons-far-right-wing/#ixzz49KAY0Hnc

[azurnoir]

4. ah speculation about why Saban parted company with Adelson -excerpt proceeding yours

It included Sheldon Adelson, the Republican Party’s mega-funder and, in some eyes, its kingmaker, and Haim Saban, a close ally and top donor of Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton, joining forces and putting aside politics to fight together against attempts to isolate Israel.

“When it comes to Israel, we are absolutely on the same page,” Saban declared, sitting next to a smiling Adelson in a joint TV interview. “When it comes to this, there is no light between us at all.”

Three months later, this bipartisan idyllic picture is all but shattered.

Saban, quietly and unannounced, has pulled out of the major anti-BDS initiative he helped launch with Adelson and has also minimized his role in an Israeli-American organization where both billionaires had been deeply involved. No reason was given for the move, but Jewish activists involved in these initiatives say that at the end of the day it was politics that drove apart the two magnates.

Read more: http://forward.com/news/israel/321793/haim-saban-dumps-pro-israel-coalition-over-sheldon-adelsons-far-right-wing/#ixzz49Mq2FUro

[King_David]

5. There's no speculation

Saban is a Democrat , just like the vast majority of us Jews .

No sure what your breathlessly trying to point out ?

LOL - these are not even complex Jewish community issues.

- FAIL

[azurnoir]

6. I pointed out what the Forward said are you suggesting the Forward doesn't represent Jews?

[King_David]

7. The Forward yes,

You ? NO
Not one
It's not difficult to understand us Jewish Americans, we are majority Democrats , as is Chaim Saban.

[azurnoir]

8. I posted a snip from the Forward that seems to be what you disagree with

as to the rest

[King_David]

9. You can post any article from anywhere

The snip you posted shows that Saban the democrat parted with Adelson because he disagreed with the Republican views.

It's really frustrating for you that the vast majority of us American Jews are democrats.... And that's too bad for you - couldn't care less.

[azurnoir]

10. attack and ad hominem hmm I must have touched a nerve was it this post?

Star Member azurnoir (44,992 posts)
11. Not at all Adelson backs Republicans Saban backs some Democrats

both do it with approximately the same goals with respect to Israel-it's a win-win

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=128990

and it is indeed only some Democrats, as he helped defeat a Democratic Black woman Congressional candidate in MD, because she wasn't Pro-Israel enough

Pro-Israel Billionaire Haim Saban Drops $100,000 Against Donna Edwards in Maryland Senate Race

IN THE FINAL DAYS leading up to Maryland’s Democratic voters going to the polls on Tuesday to choose their U.S. Senate nominee, Rep. Donna Edwards has been barraged by ads and mailers from the Super PAC backing her opponent, Rep. Chris Van Hollen, called the Committee for Maryland’s Progress.

A television ad assails Edwards as “one of the least effective members of Congress,” contrasting her career with Van Hollen’s legislative record. It mentions no foreign policy issues, despite the dominant issue motivating one of the Super PAC’s largest funders.

Recently released disclosures reveal that $100,000 — a sixth of what the Super PAC has raised —comes from a single source: a donation by pro-Israel billionaire Haim Saban.

A “One-Issue Guy”

Saban, who made his fortune in the media and entertainment industry, has spent millions of dollars influencing the foreign policy establishment, including by sponsoring the Brookings Institution’s Saban Center for Middle East Policy and funding the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). He is also one of the largest donors to Hillary Clinton’s Super PACs. In a 2010 interview with the New Yorker, he described himself as a “one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel.”

Last year, he briefly teamed up with GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson to sponsor an effort to counter university boycotts and divestment from Israel’s occupation. “When it comes to Israel, we are absolutely on the same page,” he said of Adelson. “When it comes to this, there is no light between us at all.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/25/pro-israel-billionaire-haim-saban-drops-100000-against-donna-edwards-in-maryland-senate-race/

[King_David]

11. No nerve struck

You're just clueless about us American Jews and it's really frustrating to you that our community are overwhelmingly Democrats ... Sticks in your throat.

[azurnoir]

12. you seem to be having trouble digesting this

take a couple of these chew slowly and read again




Star Member azurnoir (44,994 posts)
10. attack and ad hominem hmm I must have touched a nerve was it this post?

Star Member azurnoir (44,992 posts)
11. Not at all Adelson backs Republicans Saban backs some Democrats

both do it with approximately the same goals with respect to Israel-it's a win-win


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=128990

and it is indeed only some Democrats, as he helped defeat a Democratic Black woman Congressional candidate in MD, because she wasn't Pro-Israel enough

Pro-Israel Billionaire Haim Saban Drops $100,000 Against Donna Edwards in Maryland Senate Race

IN THE FINAL DAYS leading up to Maryland’s Democratic voters going to the polls on Tuesday to choose their U.S. Senate nominee, Rep. Donna Edwards has been barraged by ads and mailers from the Super PAC backing her opponent, Rep. Chris Van Hollen, called the Committee for Maryland’s Progress.

A television ad assails Edwards as “one of the least effective members of Congress,” contrasting her career with Van Hollen’s legislative record. It mentions no foreign policy issues, despite the dominant issue motivating one of the Super PAC’s largest funders.

Recently released disclosures reveal that $100,000 — a sixth of what the Super PAC has raised —comes from a single source: a donation by pro-Israel billionaire Haim Saban.

A “One-Issue Guy”

Saban, who made his fortune in the media and entertainment industry, has spent millions of dollars influencing the foreign policy establishment, including by sponsoring the Brookings Institution’s Saban Center for Middle East Policy and funding the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). He is also one of the largest donors to Hillary Clinton’s Super PACs. In a 2010 interview with the New Yorker, he described himself as a “one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel.”

Last year, he briefly teamed up with GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson to sponsor an effort to counter university boycotts and divestment from Israel’s occupation. “When it comes to Israel, we are absolutely on the same page,” he said of Adelson. “When it comes to this, there is no light between us at all.”


https://theintercept.com/2016/04/25/pro-israel-billionaire-haim-saban-drops-100000-against-donna-edwards-in-maryland-senate-race/

[King_David]

13. Being obsessed with American Jews as you are

Really frustrates you that the vast majority of us are Democrats .... Good

[azurnoir]

14. and once again oh and about who is obsessed with who ....

but I digress take a couple of these chew slowly and read again

11. Not at all Adelson backs Republicans Saban backs some Democrats

both do it with approximately the same goals with respect to Israel-it's a win-win

and it is indeed only some Democrats, as he helped defeat a Democratic Black woman Congressional candidate in MD, because she wasn't Pro-Israel enough

Pro-Israel Billionaire Haim Saban Drops $100,000 Against Donna Edwards in Maryland Senate Race

IN THE FINAL DAYS leading up to Maryland’s Democratic voters going to the polls on Tuesday to choose their U.S. Senate nominee, Rep. Donna Edwards has been barraged by ads and mailers from the Super PAC backing her opponent, Rep. Chris Van Hollen, called the Committee for Maryland’s Progress.

A television ad assails Edwards as “one of the least effective members of Congress,” contrasting her career with Van Hollen’s legislative record. It mentions no foreign policy issues, despite the dominant issue motivating one of the Super PAC’s largest funders.

Recently released disclosures reveal that $100,000 — a sixth of what the Super PAC has raised —comes from a single source: a donation by pro-Israel billionaire Haim Saban.

A “One-Issue Guy”

Saban, who made his fortune in the media and entertainment industry, has spent millions of dollars influencing the foreign policy establishment, including by sponsoring the Brookings Institution’s Saban Center for Middle East Policy and funding the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). He is also one of the largest donors to Hillary Clinton’s Super PACs. In a 2010 interview with the New Yorker, he described himself as a “one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel.”

Last year, he briefly teamed up with GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson to sponsor an effort to counter university boycotts and divestment from Israel’s occupation. “When it comes to Israel, we are absolutely on the same page,” he said of Adelson. “When it comes to this, there is no light between us at all.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/25/pro-israel-billionaire-haim-saban-drops-100000-against-donna-edwards-in-maryland-senate-race/

[King_David]

15. He seems to have backed the winner

Good

[cali]

3. What makes him a great guy?

I'm with him. Bernie is the candidate who actually cares about Israel, and isn't just pandering like hilly.

[ericson00]

16. cares about Israel? He LIED about the toll in Gaza.

and he skipped AIPAC, a bipartisan event that REAL POTUS candidates go to.

[cali]

17. AIPAC??

Ugh.

Your Israel can do no wrong bit, is just.... wrong.

[Little Tich]

18. What's good with super PACs?

Whatever they're used for, they don't reflect the will of the People, only the will of those funding them.

[branford]

19. I believe you mean PACs or lobbying groups, not Super PACs.

First, there's nothing wrong with a group of like minded people advocating for common interests and petitioning the government. It's the basis for our First Amendment, and extensively used by Democratic and liberal groups like NARAL and various environmental advocacy groups.

Democrats and liberals also have our own very active Super PACs supporting our party and political interests.

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2014/09/22/liberals-still-top-list-of-largest-super-pac-donors/
https://ballotpedia.org/Super_PAC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NARAL_Pro-Choice_America

These types of groups are only supposed to represent their members. The "People" can join and contribute (or not) to any group they like, and many groups are indeed bipartisan.

In fact, AIPAC is one of the largest and most bipartisan political groups in the USA, as is readily evident from their active list of speakers and supporters.

Your complaint is essentially that AIPAC doesn't represent your opinions, and therefore is somehow less legitimate. As many polls in the USA readily indicate, your ideas about the I/P dispute and its potential resolution are a distinct minority view of "The People" of the United States.

[Little Tich]

20. You'll just have to accept that some people believe that money and politics shouldn't mix.

It's not about Super PACs supporting a specific politician - if Bernie Sanders was supported by super PACs, I would think less of him too.

[branford]

21. AIPAC is not a political action committee or Super PAC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee

Do you believe all collective political and lobbying activities by Americans are inappropriate or illegitimate, or only those you aims you disagree with.

If the former, besides being entirely inconsistent with long-standing First Amendment jurisprudence, if it became the law, it would decimate liberal and progressive causes like union support, abortion rights, environmental advocacy, etc.

I also don't have to accept anything. Americans can already organize and support candidates or causes at their discretion with their time, money or anything else. Further, popular and political support for Israel in the USA is firm and strong. It is you who need to accept that your ideas concerning the I/P conflict, free speech and political organization and lobbying are clearly the minority view in America and very unlikely to change any time in the near future.

[Little Tich]

22. The OP was about the Priorities USA Action super PAC.

I have no problem with people organizing efforts to influence politics. When it comes to corporate donors spending millions of $$$ on political issues however, it only makes the political process less democratic. I want the political process to be transparent, and politicians to be responsible to their constituents, not their donors.

I have the same opinion about lobbying as well - whether it's the pharmaceutical lobby, the Israel lobby or the fossil fuels lobby - if there's no actual people behind them but rather "interests", the power of the voters are diminished when the lobbies get more power.

[branford]

23. The Saban's are not corporate donors, they are individuals,

and as the OP makes evident, we are fully aware of his contributions in support of Clinton, as well as his strong support for Israel (along with a great many other Democrat donors).

You also must remember that those purportedly evil corporation are comprised of actual people. They are no more or less "legitimate" than unions, NGO's, nonprofits, professional organizations, etc. The fact that these shareholders, directly or indirectly, want to make a profit or advance conservative views is immaterial in regards to their First Amendment rights, and the reason why groups such as the very liberal ACLU are parties and plaintiffs to cases like Citizens United.

[Little Tich]

24. Money is free speech in the US, but nowhere else - Buckley v. Valeo and Citizens United v. FEC could

could only happen in the US.

Donating to politicians and political campaigns is a soft form of corruption, but a form of corruption nevertheless. It goes against the ideals of democracy, at least the part which says that the people should rule the country.

Your sympathy for corporations and the very rich is duly noted.