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Related: About this forum90% of Israeli Jews call themselves Zionists, Herzl Day poll finds
The vast majority of Israelis say Zionism is still relevant today and most define themselves as Zionists, according to a poll released by the Herzl Center Wednesday in honor of Herzl Day, celebrated on the Zionist thinkers birthday.
Asked to what extent they define themselves as Zionists, with 10 being the most and one the least, about half (51 percent) of the polls respondents gave themselves a nine or 10 and 39% ranked themselves from five to eight. Only 11% of Israeli Jews gave themselves a score of one to four.
The vast majority of Israeli Jews 82% said the idea of Zionism is still relevant, while 9% were unsure and another 9% said Zionism is irrelevant.
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/90-percent-of-Israeli-Jews-call-themselves-Zionists-Herzl-Day-poll-finds-454347
King_David
(14,851 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)http://www.city.ac.uk/news/2015/november/the-attitudes-of-british-jews-towards-israel
94% (American Jews) say that if Jewish state "no longer existed tomorrow," it would be a "tragedy."
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/US-Jews-strongly-support-Israel-new-poll-shows
When antizionists demonize "zionists", they're demonizing 9/10 Jews.
This is all the proof needed to out the Jew haters.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)It would be interesting to see to what extent Israeli Arabs believe that Zionism is an ideology that includes them. In a democracy, it's important that minorities are included, and that they don't feel alienated.
Is there a link to the poll?
shira
(30,109 posts)read more: http://www.haaretz.com/poll-75-of-israeli-arabs-support-jewish-democratic-constitution-1.219373
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Would a majority of Israeli Arabs also identify themselves as Zionists if they support a constitution that defined Israel as a Jewish and democratic state? Is Zionism an ideology that includes or excludes Israeli Arabs?
shira
(30,109 posts)branford
(4,462 posts)virtually all want to remain citizens in the event of the creation of a Palestinian state, and routinely express their fears that their towns and villages might be part of any land traded or turned over to Palestinian rule.
One need only look around the geographic neighborhood, both historically and today, to realize that being governed by those dreaded Zionists is far, far better than all the alternatives, particularly if you're Palestinian. The current state of democracy and human rights under both the P.A. in the West Bank, and Hamas in Gaza, truly speaks for itself.
shira
(30,109 posts)http://www.thetower.org/0352-poll-more-israeli-arabs-dump-palestinian-identity-accept-jewish-state/
shira
(30,109 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)How many Israeli Arabs consider themselves to Zionists? If they say they're nationalistic, do they mean that they're Zionists or something else?
There seems to be a difference in how Jewish and Arab Israelis identify their love for Israel, and what aspects of the Jewish and Democratic state they want to emphasize.
Or maybe I'm just on a fishing expedition...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Israeli Public Opinion Polls:
Attitudes of Israeli Arabs
(2005 - Present)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/arabpoll.html
Doesn't have the exact question you are fishing for, but it has some similar ones that might be of interest to you.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)They do seem to indicate that Israeli Arabs are more interested in the democratic part of Israel than the Jewish one.
Thanks.
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Fri May 20, 2016, 10:44 AM - Edit history (1)
....that pretty much obliterates all your notions of Apartheid, Zionism = Racism, or Adalah's list of 50 bullshit.
Goes to show Israel's Arabs think a lot more highly of the Jewish state than you or any anti-zionist BDS'ers do, but of course you all know what's best for them (colonial mentality).
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)and that Zionism isn't an ideology that most Israeli Arabs identify with and support.
While all the polls of Israeli Arabs seem to indicate that it's indeed the case, it's not conclusive, as the Jewish/Zionist issue is always conflated with democracy, so it's not easy to see to what degree Israeli Arabs support Zionism/Jewish state as opposed to democracy.
This is not about any claims of Apartheid, that's in another thread.