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The French peace initiative was born in sin. It did not begin as an initiative, it began as a threat: If Israel doesnt accept the diktat to recognize a Palestinian state, without negotiations and without the Palestinians having to recognize Israel, France will support Palestinian demands. The initiative includes demands made of Israel, like halting settlement construction beyond the Green Lineboth in the Gilo neighborhood in Jerusalem and in the main settlement blocs that will undoubtedly stay part of Israel in any future accord. But there are no demands made of the Palestiniansnot on the "right of return," not on stopping incitement, nothing. This isn't serious.
The Israeli angerwhich is entirely justifiedled to a certain change in tone. The French are no longer promising the Palestinians that they would recognize a Palestinian state if the talks fail, and they've ambiguously dropped their other preconditions. The Israeli anger increased following the French support of the Arab resolution passed by UNESCO, which in practice rejects any connection between Israel and Jerusalem. When something like this is coming out of Tehran, we can mock it. But not so, when it's coming out of Paris?
The French realize they've made a mistake. They condemned their own vote in favor of the resolution. French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault visited Israel on Sunday. Next week, French Prime Minister Manuel Vallsa serious and brave manwill visit Israel as well. They're trying to convince Israel to get on board with their peace initiative.
All peace initiatives so far have failed. Even the dream team of Yossi Beilin, Shlomo Ben-Ami and the late Yossi Sarid couldn't deliver the goods. The Palestinians, again and again, have insisted on the right of return. Not a partial right or return or a symbolic onea mass one. Not that Netanyahu would've agreed to what Beilin proposed, but Abbas said "no" to Beilin. Experience proves that it doesn't matter what the Palestinians are offered, it doesn't matter what the initiative entails. It's clear, even before the fact, that Abbas will say no. Even the French, despite Israel's anger at them, won't offer the Palestinians the right of return, and any proposal that does not include the right of return will receive the already-known answer. So, despite the pro-Palestinian bias, the result is known in advance....
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yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)From there it should be be pay for play.
Supply Palestine with unfettered water and power, get a loan.
Tear down the apartheid wall, get a loan.
Clear the prisons of children, get a loan.
Hand over your nuclear arsenal, get a loan.
And so on and so on and so on.
Fozzledick
(3,890 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)I am in sheer awe.
COLGATE4
(14,840 posts)aranthus
(3,386 posts)Is that Israel should say "yes" to the Saudi Peace Plan, albeit with significant and necessary conditions. As far as his claim that the French Conference will fail, he's just stating the obvious.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)At least that's what I believe.
Israel is running out of options, and people like Ben Dror Yemini can only delude themselves for so long that the Palestinians will somehow acquiesce to a non-viable state.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Or a trip to Disneyland
Or a slumber party
Or a foam party
All viable alternatives