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grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:19 AM Apr 2016

Harvard Law Student Asks Israeli Official Why She’s ‘So Smelly’

"On Thursday, April 14, at an event hosted by the Program on Negotiation at Harvard Law School, Tzipi Livni, a former Israeli minister and member of the Knesset, spoke to roughly 150 students and faculty members. During the Q & A portion at the end of the presentation, a Harvard Law School Student directed an ad hominem attack on the Israeli guest:

“My question is for Tzipi Livni—how is it that you are so smelly?” The student, a male third-year who is also the president of a student organization on campus, added, “It’s regarding your odor—about the odor of Tzipi Livni, very smelly.”"

http://observer.com/2016/04/harvard-law-student-asks-israeli-official-why-shes-so-smelly/



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Harvard Law Student Asks Israeli Official Why She’s ‘So Smelly’ (Original Post) grossproffit Apr 2016 OP
good lord. It would be fascinating to know why someone would be like that. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
This is the face of the BDS movement oberliner Apr 2016 #2
The BDS head of Justice for Palestine @ Harvard. Classy. shira Apr 2016 #4
I don't get his question. King_David Apr 2016 #3
Yet another bigoted hateful Antisemitic King_David Apr 2016 #5
I agree Mosby Apr 2016 #6
He has issued an "apology", but read it carefully. aranthus Apr 2016 #7
He's now a victim. Just wait for the apologists to blame the Zionists (Jews).... shira Apr 2016 #8
It was a pathetic "apology" leftynyc Apr 2016 #9
It gets worse. His past is being scrubbed on the internet. shira Apr 2016 #11
Hey, Shira leftynyc Apr 2016 #12
Chag Pesach Sameach, chaver! shira Apr 2016 #14
Can you believe leftynyc Apr 2016 #18
Just started the brisket a half-hour ago. Got kreplach to drop into the Matza ball soup... shira Apr 2016 #24
This is interesting leftynyc Apr 2016 #26
Look up this a-hole on google & you'll notice webpages have been scrubbed.... shira Apr 2016 #10
That's disgusting leftynyc Apr 2016 #13
What the Canary Mission is doing is far worse than what this guy did. Little Tich Apr 2016 #16
Much worse , you say ? Maybe because you're not affected by him calling a fellow Jew King_David Apr 2016 #17
Oh, there's quite a difference between being an anti-Semite (if that's what he is) Little Tich Apr 2016 #19
Of course he is. That's why he's scrubbing his history on the internet. shira Apr 2016 #25
Could you perhaps provide some of what he's written that indicates anti-Semitic intent? Little Tich Apr 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Apr 2016 #34
Nonsense. He's a Jew hating activist who wants to do harm to Jews. shira Apr 2016 #20
I'm against all such lists, no exception. Little Tich Apr 2016 #22
We disagree then. Neo-Nazis and their friends should be exposed. shira Apr 2016 #23
I really believe that everyone has a right to their privacy. Little Tich Apr 2016 #31
There are public records here in the US of rapists, child molesters.... shira Apr 2016 #35
Of course I am. Little Tich Apr 2016 #41
I suppose you support the Masada2000 list of self-hating Jews as well? Little Tich Apr 2016 #45
Masada2000 is a hate site. A database listing sexual predators... shira Apr 2016 #46
I'm obviously not as smart as you are. Little Tich Apr 2016 #48
Then he shouldn't have made his views public in the first place. shira Apr 2016 #37
I don't know of any newspaper articles hanging out individuals like the Canary Mission does. Little Tich Apr 2016 #43
Google recent news articles. They outed that racist POS. Same as Canary Mission. n/t shira Apr 2016 #47
If you're unable to find an example, why do you think I would be able to find one? Little Tich Apr 2016 #49
Hacker attack vs. public pronouncements and activity 6chars Apr 2016 #33
Bingo. n/t shira Apr 2016 #36
I would like to point out that it's quite possible to compile a "Jew list" by simply "collating Little Tich Apr 2016 #42
WTF? Little Tich Apr 2016 #15
You don't know about the anti-semitic part? oberliner Apr 2016 #27
Worse than that is when they think they know better than Jews what antisemitism is. shira Apr 2016 #28
It's about plausible denial - he might have been unaware that he was using an anti-Semitic trope. Little Tich Apr 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Apr 2016 #32
His actions don't correspond with a genius IQ. n/t Little Tich Apr 2016 #44
Imagine this scenario oberliner Apr 2016 #38
Now THAT's a no-brainer & Mondoweiss would flip the F- out! n/t shira Apr 2016 #39
I still wouldn't define it as anti-Palestinianism as it's possible that the person saying it didn't Little Tich Apr 2016 #40
I wonder what was Tzipi thinking to herself ?..... Israeli Apr 2016 #21
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. This is the face of the BDS movement
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:51 AM
Apr 2016

Husam El-Coolaq is the student who made the blatantly anti-semitic remark.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
4. The BDS head of Justice for Palestine @ Harvard. Classy.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:40 AM
Apr 2016

But typical.

BDS is a Jew hating movement. Always has been...

King_David

(14,851 posts)
5. Yet another bigoted hateful Antisemitic
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

"Incident " by the BDS movement.

This BDS hater hopefully will be expelled.... His chance at becoming a lawyer should be terminated....nothing else is acceptable.

aranthus

(3,386 posts)
7. He has issued an "apology", but read it carefully.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

It's just butt covering. He apologizes to those who "felt offended", not for what he said, which was rude, offensive and inappropriate even if he had no antisemitic intent. And I love the part where he says that Jews who disagree with him still know that he's a nice guy. Bull. Nice guys don't call foreign leaders smelly even if they don't mean to call them a smelly Jew.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. He's now a victim. Just wait for the apologists to blame the Zionists (Jews)....
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

....for oppressing a good BDS hole like this bigot.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
9. It was a pathetic "apology"
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

I hope they're thinking of expelling him for the embarrassment alone. This is the kind of crap Jewish students in college are dealing with every single fucking day.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
11. It gets worse. His past is being scrubbed on the internet.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:45 PM
Apr 2016

Probably began right after the incident last week.

I'm wondering why Harvard wanted this censored for several days.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. Hey, Shira
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:47 PM
Apr 2016

Wishing all my fellow Jews a very Happy Passover. It's going to be a weekend of family and food.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
18. Can you believe
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:32 AM
Apr 2016

neither my mom (tonight) or my sister (tomorrow) is making brisket? Salmon/Roast Chicken tonight, Salmon/Fillet of Beef tomorrow. But both will have plenty of Knaidel!! I don't normally keep kosher but I do it during Pesach, in honor of the grandmothers who smile down from heaven.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
24. Just started the brisket a half-hour ago. Got kreplach to drop into the Matza ball soup...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:56 AM
Apr 2016

Got the potato kugel, tzimmes, apple-walnut charoset, and fresh baked matza too.

I was on the fence about making potato latkes before deciding not to. Maybe for later with some knishes, we'll see.

Making a more healthy sauteed rice, spinach, and onion dish instead.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
26. This is interesting
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:10 AM
Apr 2016

We have someone with a walnut allergy so we make our charoset with pistachios - it's divine. Mom is making latkes, sister making kugel. If you have a good recipe for knishes, I'd love it (not for Passover but any other time) - I would make 1/2 potato and half kasha.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
10. Look up this a-hole on google & you'll notice webpages have been scrubbed....
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

Gee, I wonder why.



https://canarymission.org/individuals/husam-el-qoulaq/

Attempt to Conceal his Past

Following an anti-Semitic incident on April 14, 2016, details of El-Qoulaq’s identity and his affiliations with different anti-Israel organizations began disappearing.

According to Angel.co, he was listed as having been an employee at Morgan Lewis Law Firm, the American Civil Liberties Union and Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic. By April 21, 2016 the listing had been removed.

El-Qoulaq was also listed as a member of the Harvard Arab Student Association until April of 2016. On April 21, 2016, El-Qoulaq’s name was removed from the group’s website.

El-Qoulaq is an organizer for Harvard Law School Justice for Palestine (JFP), an affiliate of Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP). He was also a member of SJP at UC Berkeley (SJP Berkeley).

He was listed as an organizer of an October 20, 2015 JFP event titled, “The Palestine Exception to Free Speech.” The Facebook event was removed and reinstated on April 21, 2016 without El-Qoulaq’s name on the page.

He organized a JFP event scheduled for April 20, 2016 titled: “Using Water As A Weapon: How Israel Uses Water to Oppress Palestinians.” At some time on April 21, 2016 the name of the event organizer was changed from El-Qoulaq to “Student Orgs Events.”

Anti-Semitic Hate Speech

At an April 14, 2016 Harvard panel discussion on Israeli-Palestinian negotiations — hosted by the Program on Negotiation at Harvard Law School and co-sponsored by the Jewish Law Students Association and Harvard Hillel — El-Qoulaq was recorded heckling Jewish-Israeli politician Tzipi Livni during the question and answer session.

“How is it that you are so smelly?” El-Qoulaq demanded. When his question went unanswered, El-Qoulaq doubled down, insisting: “[a] question about the odor of Ms. Tzipi Livni, she’s very smelly, and I was just wondering.”

The event was widely reported on by eye-witnesses present at the panel discussion. Harvard Law then went to lengths to conceal El-Qoulaq’s identity and their published video of the panel was edited to exclude El-Qoulaq’s question.

On April 18, 2016, three members of the Harvard Jewish Law Students Association demanded a public apology to Ms. Livni, the Jewish students of HLS, and Harvard Law School at large — and observed in response to El-Qoulaq’s question:

“A quick Internet search will show that the stereotype of “the Jew” as “smelly” or “dirty” has been around since at least the 1800s. The Nazis promoted the idea that Jews “smell” to propagandize Jews as an inferior people. The idea that Jews can be identified by a malodor is patently offensive and stereotypes Jews as an “other” which incites further acts of discrimination. The fact that such a hate-filled and outdated stereotype reemerged at Harvard Law School is nothing short of revolting.”

The following day, Martha Minow, Dean of Harvard Law School, sent an e-mail to the Harvard Law community denouncing El-Qoulaq’s question, writing: “The comment was offensive and it violated the trust and respect we expect in our community. Many perceive it as anti-Semitic, and no one would see it as appropriate. It was an embarrassment to this institution and an assault upon the values we seek to uphold.”

By April 20, 2016, news of El-Qoulaq’s abusive comment had spread across social media, prompting comment from celebrities like Roseanne Barr.

On April 21, an opinion piece on the incedent published in the Harvard Law Record was updated to contain what was titled “an apology” from El-Qoulaq, identified only as “the individual who made the comment.” The text of the update stated that he never intended to perpetuate an anti-Semitic stereotype and was “entirely unaware” that such a stereotype existed. He encouraged members of the Jewish community who were hurt by his question to “reach out” and to give him “an oppurtunity to make it right.”

However, details of the El-Qoulaq’s identity were not provided in order for individuals to be able to reach out to him.

Championing Anti-Israel Activity

On October 20, 2015, El-Qoulaq organized a JFP event called “The Palestine Exception to Free Speech.”

The event was slated to “challenge to the longstanding orthodoxy in the United States that excuses, justifies, and otherwise supports discriminatory Israeli government policies” and to discuss what was described as “heavy-handed tactics” purportedly used against the anti-Israel lobby.

Disseminating a Libel

El-Qoulaq organized a JFP event scheduled for April 20, 2016 titled: “Using Water As A Weapon: How Israel Uses Water to Oppress Palestinians.” On April 21, 2016, the event organizer was changed from El-Qoulaq to “Student Orgs Events.”

The event promoted the libel that Israel denies Palestinians water rights negotiated under the Oslo Accords. This falsehood has long been used as a weapon to attack Israel.

Defending Speech Disruptors

In October 2011, El-Qoulaq demonstrated in support of UC Irvine students dubbed the “Irvine 11,” who were arrested for repeatedly disrupting former Israeli ambassador Michael Oren’s talk at the university on February 8, 2010.

El-Qoulaq branded the arrests of those who attempted to silence Michael Oren a “concentrated effort to quell the Palestinian narrative.”

SJP

SJP was co-founded by Hatem Bazian and Snehal Shingavi in 2001 at UC Berkeley. Their intention was to advance the radical anti-Israel mission of the Muslim Brotherhood, but masked as a secular organization.

SJP members frequently intimidate and harass Jews and pro-Israel students. SJP Members have physically assaulted Jewish students, vandalized communal property and violently disrupted pro Israel speakers and events. SJP-run rallies regularly include hate-speech and chants such as “From the River to the Sea Palestine will be Free” — a call for the destruction of the Jewish State.

SJP runs inflammatory campaigns against Israel including Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) resolutions, Israel-Apartheid initiatives, drives comparing Israel to Nazi Germany, mock check-points, “die-ins”, as well as rallies and protests.

SJP chapters regularly host speakers who use language considered anti-Semitic by the U.S. State Department. Chapter events routinely include individuals and organizations linked to terrorist activity and call for violence against Jews.

When confronted, SJP demonizes and defames critics, branding attacks against them as “Islamophobic” — a term popularized by co-founder Hatem Bazian.

SJP, is rapidly creating a hostile and unsafe environment on U.S. campuses. For this reason, they have been labeled by some as “Hamas on Campus.”

....
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
13. That's disgusting
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016

I hope all this publicity makes him hide his head in shame. I know it will further diminish the effects of the repulsive bds movement.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
16. What the Canary Mission is doing is far worse than what this guy did.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

Making a blacklist of political opponents is a decidedly undemocratic way to try to stifle political debate. What this guy did was extremely rude, but he didn't try to destroy any foundations of democracy. The Canary Mission is a hate-site that tries to intimidate and incite against political opponents, and it's completely outside the democratic political spectrum. I know you've been fawning over the Canary Mission before, and I'm still just as opposed to its use as I was then.

There's no coincidence that this guy is on the Canary mission list - they've probably stalked him for a long time.

Anyway, here's an article from the Forward about the Canary Mission:

Shadowy Web Site Creates Blacklist of Pro-Palestinian Activists
Source: The Forward, May 27, 2015

A new website is publicizing the identities of pro-Palestinian student activists to prevent them from getting jobs after they graduate from college. But the website is keeping its own backers’ identity a secret.

“It is your duty to ensure that today’s radicals are not tomorrow’s employees,” a female narrator intones in a slick video posted to the website’s YouTube account.

Called Canary Mission, the site has posted profiles of dozens of students and recent graduates, alongside those of well-known activists like Omar Barghouti, founder of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. Some of the students are active in Students for Justice in Palestine; others were involved in recent pro-BDS resolutions at campuses in California. Many of them have relatively thin activist résumés.

“The focus on young people and students is an effort to try to tell people that there will be a price for you taking a political position,” said Ali Abunimah, founder of the pro-Palestinian website The Electronic Intifada. “It’s an effort to punish and deter people from standing up for what they believe.”


Read more: http://forward.com/news/308902/shadowy-web-site-creates-black-list-of-pro-palestinian-activists/

King_David

(14,851 posts)
17. Much worse , you say ? Maybe because you're not affected by him calling a fellow Jew
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:41 AM
Apr 2016

a bigoted , hateful slur - " smelly Jew"... It's easy to diminish the hate....if oneself is not the target of this bigotry.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
19. Oh, there's quite a difference between being an anti-Semite (if that's what he is)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:59 AM
Apr 2016

and organized political activity that is aimed at intimidation and sidestepping the democratic discourse. It's like the difference between being Tom Metzger (OK) and doing what Tom Metzger does (not OK). And with OK, I'm not implying support or sympathy for Tom Metzger in any way.

If someone was compiling a Jew list, I would be against that too, much more so, for obvious reasons. The Canary Mission is doing some really nasty shit that shouldn't be supported by anyone. History is full of examples of what happens to people on these lists.

My opposition to the Canary Mission doesn't mean that I think that calling Tzipi Livni "smelly" was OK. That was a really bad thing to say, and I hope that people will explain that to him.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
25. Of course he is. That's why he's scrubbing his history on the internet.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:04 AM
Apr 2016

He'd have nothing to be ashamed of for his "humane" pro-Palestinian advocacy, right?

That asshole knows what he's written about Jews and now he's ashamed.

He should be ashamed.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
30. Could you perhaps provide some of what he's written that indicates anti-Semitic intent?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:29 PM
Apr 2016

The information you've provided so far only indicates that he's being stalked by the Canary Mission and that perhaps he should call the police.

Response to Little Tich (Reply #30)

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
20. Nonsense. He's a Jew hating activist who wants to do harm to Jews.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:29 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:21 AM - Edit history (1)

I'd have no such problem with a list of young adult neo-nazis and KKK'ers, would you?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
22. I'm against all such lists, no exception.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:23 AM
Apr 2016

A while back in Sweden, a list of some 5000 members of the extreme right wing party "The Swedish Democrats" was leaked, which caused problems for the people on the list. I'm totally opposed to stunts like that because intimidation shouldn't be part of the democratic discourse, ever. People should have an unhindered right to their political opinion, and I want to be able to oppose these opinions on their own merits and not by intimidating the people having them.

Sweden Democrat members exposed in leak
Source: The Local Sweden, 21 Sep 2010

A register of over 5,000 people who are either members or have registered their interest in the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats (SD), has been published on the internet.

"It is an old database... which the attacker presumably got hold of in the weekend's hacker attack. We have filed a police report," SD press spokesperson Erik Almqvist told the Dagens Nyheter (DN) daily.

But according to several Swedish bloggers rumours began circulating in the weeks running up to Sunday's general election that the Sweden Democrats' member list had been obtained by hackers back in April.

Either way the list was published on Monday and is presented as a search engine enabling visitors to the site to "Get to know your local Sweden Democrats" and "Find a friend near you" with the possibility to search according to town, street address or telephone number.

According to Almqvist the information has not been actively collected by the party, but has been filed by the applicants themselves.


Read more: http://www.thelocal.se/20100921/29146
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
23. We disagree then. Neo-Nazis and their friends should be exposed.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:30 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:02 AM - Edit history (4)

Maybe you'd understand better if you were the one under attack by those animals.

I'm all for exposing Nazis, KKK'ers, Gay bashers, etc. Just as I support exposing rapists and child molesters. They're in the same boat IMO.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
31. I really believe that everyone has a right to their privacy.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:35 PM
Apr 2016

However, with some your examples of people that should be listed I think your view may reflect the majority view. I still think that any form of listing of people is wrong - democracy is better without it.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
35. There are public records here in the US of rapists, child molesters....
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:15 AM
Apr 2016

Easy access to those who want to know how close these predators live to them.

You're against that?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
41. Of course I am.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:34 PM
Apr 2016

Providing that kind of information to the public serves no purpose whatsoever. That's however a subject that is outside of the scope of this OP.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
45. I suppose you support the Masada2000 list of self-hating Jews as well?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:41 AM
Apr 2016

From Wikipedia:
(snip)

Masada2000 is well known for its criticism of Jews it considers "self-hating." Among those singled out are Rabbi Michael Lerner, linguist Noam Chomsky, journalist Amira Hass, politician Dedi Zucker, professor Israel Shahak, and filmmaker Woody Allen.

The site is also notorious for its "Self-Hating and/or Israel-Threatening" LIST, known as the "S.H.I.T. List." (From time to time, the S.H.I.T. List has been renamed. For a while it was the "Dense anti-Israel Repugnant Traitors" LIST, or "D.I.R.T. List." Then it became the "Self-Hating and/or Intentionally Israel-Threatening Ediots LIST" or "S.H.I.I.T.E. List.&quot More than 7,000 names long, the list consists of Jews whose opinions fall to the left of those of Masada2000's creators. The site described its targets as "radical, leftist, academic, socialist, 'progressive,' enlightened know-nothings [who] are not even worthy of the name 'Jew.'" People on the list are often described using profanities, vulgar insults, racial epithets, and portrayed with photographs of animals. In some cases, their email addresses, telephone numbers, home addresses, and other private contact information are included as well.

Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masada2000

Note: Fortunately, it seems as if the www.masada2000 website is down. But the question remains - it this the kind of thing you support?

I don't.
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
46. Masada2000 is a hate site. A database listing sexual predators...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:01 AM
Apr 2016

....serves a completely different purpose (FBI sexual offender registry) than a list of people targeted for just being born the way they are.

Parents who have little kids just might want to be aware of neighbors with a history of abusing children. Of course if you don't have children, you probably don't understand. Maybe you don't care.

I'm all for that WRT known rapists, neo-nazis, KKK'ers and active BDS racists.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
48. I'm obviously not as smart as you are.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:29 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:18 AM - Edit history (1)

What's the difference between one website that lists pro-Palestinian activists and another website that lists pro-Palestinian activists? For me, Masada2000 and the Canary Mission are doing the exactly same thing.

I don't get it.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
37. Then he shouldn't have made his views public in the first place.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:27 AM
Apr 2016

It's all fair game.

Nothing that Canary Mission publicized would be deemed inappropriate in any newspaper article.

Seems you're the one against freedom of expression here.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
43. I don't know of any newspaper articles hanging out individuals like the Canary Mission does.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
Apr 2016

Could you please provide an example, or perhaps I could just go to Stormfront to see what you mean?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
49. If you're unable to find an example, why do you think I would be able to find one?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:30 PM
Apr 2016

I can't google better than you...

6chars

(3,967 posts)
33. Hacker attack vs. public pronouncements and activity
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:42 AM
Apr 2016

Canary is simply collating data. If someone on the list feels that being known as who they are will hurt their career, that is not Canary's fault.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
42. I would like to point out that it's quite possible to compile a "Jew list" by simply "collating
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:42 PM
Apr 2016

data' from public pronouncements and activity.

Do you think such a list would be OK too?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
15. WTF?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:17 AM
Apr 2016

I don't know about the anti-Semitic part, but calling someone smelly is very rude under any circumstances.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
28. Worse than that is when they think they know better than Jews what antisemitism is.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

Even better, that we're just a religion and not a people/nation.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
29. It's about plausible denial - he might have been unaware that he was using an anti-Semitic trope.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:17 PM
Apr 2016

This guy doesn't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, so unless there's a pattern, I don't know if this was more than just a normal insult. Maybe he was just stupid.

Response to Little Tich (Reply #29)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
38. Imagine this scenario
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

A Palestinian official is speaking to Harvard Law School about the same topic. She is a Muslim Arab woman.

A law student who is a prominent member of an on campus pro-Israel advocacy group gets up the microphone to ask her a question. He is white and Jewish.

The white Jewish pro-Israel student activist asks the Muslim Arab Palestinian woman why she is so smelly.

When confusion is expressed regarding the question, the student repeats it again, more explicitly explaining that he is asking why this Palestinian Arab Muslim woman has such a foul odor.

After word of this incident becomes known, the Jewish student tries to hide his identity and removes his name from several on-campus pro-Israel event pages, takes down his Linkedn account and social media presence. Articles make a point of not identifying the name of the student.

How do you think a source like Mondoweiss might approach the above described scenario?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
40. I still wouldn't define it as anti-Palestinianism as it's possible that the person saying it didn't
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

know it was an anti-Palestinian trope.

If you believe that jumping to unsupported conclusions is wrong when it comes to calling Palestinians smelly, why don't you think that jumping to unsupported conclusions is wrong when it comes to calling Jews smelly?

Israeli

(4,289 posts)
21. I wonder what was Tzipi thinking to herself ?.....
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:18 AM
Apr 2016

.....probably along the lines of .........' Geez , I cant win ,

here I am ‘So Smelly’ and back home they want to kill me '........

ref : http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4446353,00.html

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