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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,244 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:06 PM Oct 24

Top Hezbollah official Hashem Safieddine is dead

BEIRUT (AP) — Hashem Safieddine, a strongman who rose through the ranks of the Iran-backed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah over decades to become the second-most powerful person within the organization, has died.

Safieddine, who was about 60, was killed in early October in a series of Israeli airstrikes in a southern suburb of Beirut that shook much of the Lebanese capital, part of Israel's campaign against Hezbollah. Israel said Tuesday that Safieddine had been killed in the strikes; Hezbollah confirmed the death Wednesday.

Safieddine's death came as he was widely expected to be elected the group's next leader after the death of Hassan Nasrallah, one of its founders.

Safieddine, Nasrallah's maternal cousin, had spent years preparing for the position — but the announcement was slow in coming following the Sept. 27 airstrike in the Beirut suburbs that killed Nasrallah, part of a series of blows dealt by Israel that had left Hezbollah in disarray.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-hezbollah-official-hashem-safieddine-151216091.html

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brush

(57,471 posts)
1. Now there should be absolutely no reason Netanyahu doesn't negotiate for a ceasefire and hostage release...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:28 PM
Oct 24

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now that the Hamas and Hezbollah top leadership has been killed off.

Netanyahu/Likud/tge IDF has won. Let's see if they negotiate now for peace and hostage release instead of continuing the warmongering and widen of the war.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)
3. I'd rather he wait until all are dead.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 03:54 PM
Oct 24

We’re only in this a year. At least give them as long as Ukraine has gotten.

brush

(57,471 posts)
4. You're actuallly advocatiing more slaughter of innocents in Gaza and now Beirut by a force...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 04:10 PM
Oct 24

with an overwhelming arms advantage of jet strikes, tanks, artillery, US bombs btw, and an organiced occupying force against the remnants of Hamas hiding in tunnels with small arms, and Lebanese citizens working and trying to live and do their jobs and survive IDF bomb strikes on their work places in Beirut's financial district?

Are you kidding? Do you realize what you just wrote?

I've found it best not to be cavalier about peoples' lives...especially those of the remaining hostages held by Hamas.

Netanyahu has won. There's no more reason to continue the killing.

Beastly Boy

(11,136 posts)
5. Did anyone on the hamas side express any burning desire to negotiate?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:21 PM
Oct 24

As long as Hamas refuses to take part in negotiations, are you expecting Netanyahu to negotiate with himself?

Beastly Boy

(11,136 posts)
7. Peace negotiation with who?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:30 PM
Oct 24

Is it worth a try to negotiate with an empty seat at the negotiating table? To what end? How is it even possible?

brush

(57,471 posts)
8. Netanyahu has also pulled back quite often and refused to negotiate.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:38 PM
Oct 24

It's not a one-side stance of Hamas only. I think it's worth seeing if Bibi makes it clear he's willing to negotiate for pease and hostage release, let's see if the other side responds positively.

I'm an optimist. I say it's worth a try. I won't kill Bibi to try, just as his corrupt behind is never in danger when he orders more bomb strikes from his safe place.

Beastly Boy

(11,136 posts)
9. He may have pulled back (depending on who is telling the story) but he didn't refuse to negotiate.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 05:48 PM
Oct 24

In fact, now that Sinwar is no longer in a position to thwart the negotiations, Netanyahu's Mossad chief Barnea is heading to Qatar on Sunday.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/10/24/mossad-chief-to-travel-to-qatar-renew-hostage-negotiation-talks/

Didn't take long, did it?

brush

(57,471 posts)
10. It shouldn't take long. He should do nothing but declare victory and negoatiate for peace...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:55 PM
Oct 24

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as the opposition leadership has been killed.

But IIRC, Netanyahu has said the war will continue. And IIRC there were new air strikes in Gaza and Beirut in the last two days. His corrupt behind is still ordering bomb strikes and widening the war.

Beastly Boy

(11,136 posts)
11. I know he should negotiate for peace. My question is, who should he negotiate with?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:58 PM
Oct 24

An empty chair?

And the other question: how does he declare victory over a terrorist organization that keeps on shooting missiles into his country?

These are not just empty words devoid of meaning. These are real questions that require legitimate answers.

brush

(57,471 posts)
12. IMO it's always worth a try for peace. Hamas is beaten.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 06:10 AM
Oct 25

Let's see what happens if the Biden/Blinken team, the Eygptians and the Qataris negotiators reserve a chair for Hamas/Hezbollah with a guarantee of safe passage, I say let's take this historic opportunity (that being the demise of their leadership which has never happened before), and let's get on with a hostage release, a ceasefire and substantive talks towards a two-state solution.

Its doubtful that there will ever be a more prime time to make it happen. Who wants another 75 years of on again-off again war?

Beastly Boy

(11,136 posts)
13. If only someone in a position to negotiate for hamas could hear what you say and find it acceptable.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 06:54 AM
Oct 25

As long as Hamas holds hostages, they are not beaten.

Let's see if any Blinken/Qataris/Egyptians can find anyone to negotiate with on the side of Hamas. Only then can we talk about negotiations.

You need two parties to negotiate with each other. Two. Until then negotiations are not possible by definition of the word.

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