What is a negotiator supposed to do when technically Israel and HAMAS want

[no_hypocrisy]

the same thing: no two-state solution.

But Israel wants no Palestine, no HAMAS and HAMAS wants no Israel.

Do you wait for different leadership on both sides? Do you get surrounding Middle Eastern countries to exert pressure on both sides?

[brush]

1. It's tough for negotiators when when Netanyahu wants the war to continue...

to avoid being tried to corruption, and Hamas leadership doesn't give a shit about the Gazans because they don't live there for the most part.

Say helloe, everyone, to continued war.

Warmonger netanyahu wants trump to win because he doesn't give a shit about the Gazans either.

If VP Harris wins, things could be quite different.

[Beastly Boy]

3. It's even tougher when hamas wants no end to the war, ever.

They pledged, again and again, to wipe Israel off the earth, a goal that is not achievable, not in their wettest fundamentalist dreams. And they don't give any more of a a shit about Palestinians than Trump and Netanyahu put together.

And, evidently, there is a whole bunch of Hamas supporters out there, taking every opportunity to get very vocal about not wanting Harris to win. They don't even know who they want to win, nor do they care.

[brush]

4. It'a a tough go, BB. Hard to figre what will happen. If elected, will VP Harris...

appoint a nes Sec'y of State, and will that change things? who Knows?

And God forbid, if trump wins, will he walk away from peace talks all together, as if to say, "who cares."

It's just a tough go.

[Mosby]

2. Mahmoud Abbas turns 89 in November

He is the last elected leader of the Palestinians and controls the PA and fatah. His term expired 15 years ago. It's not clear who his successor will be, though his sons don't seem interested.

Bibi will be out of office by the end of the year imo.

Eta - polls show that Israelis are overwhelmingly against the creation of, or discussion about a Palestinian state right now, a lot needs to happen before anyone really considers the option, regardless of who the PM is.

[Buzz cook]

5. Hamas is not the Palestinian people.

While I don't have much hope of a peaceful resolution, there is that.
Before October 7 the majority of Palestinians didn't like Hamas. Israel's actions probably changed that, but there still is a chance of peace talks.