Living in Harmony with All Life

[freshwest]

Last edited Tue Mar 6, 2012, 11:04 AM - Edit history (1)

That is reason for adopting a vegan lifestyle, also a raw food lifestyle. it's about peace and that begins with us.

I stumbled on Dr. Will Tuttle a few years ago and he sent me a pdf of his 'World Peace Diet.' You can still get it here:

http://worldpeacediet.org/

Search the site and download his wife's contributions, along with mp3s detailing "Living in Harmony with All Life."

This a positive way to move people toward a vegan life style. Another website claims the vegan lifestyle is an Esssene practice and a part of basic Christianity, for those who need that route.

Tuttle sent me links (I've subscribed to his newsletter for years now) and notice he will be at Rawpalooza this month to talk about raw veganism:

http://rawpalooza.com/

That email also led me to another of his websites, with a very positive message, and different from the one ending in .org:

http://www.worldpeacediet.com/

He's also lecturing at churches about veganism, it appears he goes to Unitarian congregations. Sounds good to me. bring out the best in people, show them just how wonderful life could be, and what is holding us back from world peace.

Hope you guys get some inspiration and enjoy those.

[HopeHoops]

1. Yet there's nothing better than blocking traffic with your car...

... to allow a family of ducks to cross safely or to help a snapping turtle (like 100 pounders) get to the other side without a fucking SUV using it as a speed bump for fun.

[freshwest]

2. Basic courtesy eludes some people.

[HopeHoops]

3. I know. There are people I knew in the past who would TRY to hit critters. That's sick.

[freshwest]

4. Read Tuttle's book? Good arguments to wake people up.

[flvegan]

5. Everything in this post pleases me.

[freshwest]

6. Enlightenment... XP from Kpete's thread

I hope as mankind approaches the truth about ourselves, we will reach out to humans in ways that show they have no need to defend themselves from those of us who cherish the lives on this planet. Bringing them to the light that has been hidden within or they are distracted from allowing to shine, is the answer.

As Thoreau said:

I saw deep in the eyes of the animals the human soul look out upon me. I saw where it was born deep down under feathers and fur, or condemned for a while to roam four-footed among the brambles I caught the clinging mute glance of the prisoner and swore that I would be faithful.

Sometimes, it takes only one brief moment in time and space, to open the eyes of a human being to our kinship with all the beasts. It is in that second of realization we are all one on this planet, that all life, no matter how it expresses itself, is truly sacred, including the one who has done wrong to his fellow creatures on Earth, to peacefully change one human being's life and the lives of millions of animals on this planet forever.

I'm unable to post the picture but it's on kpete's thread and here where I quote what the bullfighter said, as he collapsed from realizing in one moment, what he was doing... in other words he achieved enlightment from the innocent eyes of the bull questioning his actions in the middle of bullfight. It was the bull being nonviolent despite his agony and the insanity and the bloodlust that surrounded him:

“And suddenly, I looked at the bull. He had this innocence that all animals have in their eyes, and he looked at me with this pleading. It was like a cry for justice, deep down inside of me. I describe it as being like a prayer - because if one confesses, it is hoped, that one is forgiven. I felt like the worst shit on earth.”

...This photo shows the collapse of Torrero Alvaro Munera, as he realized in the middle of the his last fight… the injustice to the animal. From that day forward he became an opponent of bullfights.

http://padbury.tumblr.com/post/18825767326/and-suddenly-i-looked-at-the-bull-he-had-this

Kpete had the picture on her thread if you want to go there:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002390179

[ModerateRadical]

7. Do Animals Really Have Rights?

The one (main) thing that eludes me on the issue of animal rights is how we can be the only species that excuses ourselves from the natural order. We are heterotrophs, among thousands and thousands of other heterotrophic species. What, other than irrational emotional doo-gooderism, is the reasoning behind this proposed idea that we should remove ourselves from the established natural order of life feeding on life? I understand the concerns about cruel treatment in factory farms, the environmental degradation of excessive beef production causing slash-and-burn expansion of grazing lands into the rainforests, the overconsumption of meat/dairy in western diets, etc, etc...but does any of this really necessitate the complete abstinence of all animal products? Why are humans the only species bound to respect imagined "rights" of other animals? What other apex predator considers the inherent right to life of it's prey? There are tons of reasons to consume sustainable meta/dairy...but none, at least to me, to support the all-out abstinence of animal products.

Can OP explain this, plz?

[flvegan]

8. Oh, I've got this one.

So, ego or nutrition. Choose one to answer your first question.

And let me know when you're really an apex predator outside of the supermarket or when you're shooting animals from a blind soaked in urine, and then and only then let me know the "tons of reasons to consume meta/dairy"

I fucking look forward to this one.

Right now, I'm looking forward to the response to the "natural order of life feeding on life" supported by a NatGeo video of an actual apex predator taking prey to live. Something we don't do.

So, have at it.