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Related: About this forumRepublican opposition could slow the push toward electric vehicles
On the campaign trail this election cycle, former President Donald Trump has indulged in a singular rant about electric boats and sharks. The story goes that a boat manufacturer complained to him about electric boats, and Trump wondered what would happen if the boat sank under the weight of the electric battery Would passengers be electrocuted? What if there was a shark nearby, and they had to choose how to die? I will take electrocution every single time, hes said, hinting at a long-held fear of sharks.
As nonsensical as it is, the rant hits on a common talking point among Republicans: ridiculing the rise of electric vehicles. The Inflation Reduction Act, President Joe Bidens landmark economic and climate change legislation, offered a range of incentives for the production of electric vehicles and related infrastructure, and offered tax incentives to individuals who buy them, while administration rules earlier this year increased fuel efficiency requirements for car manufacturers. Both moves spurred sharp Republican opposition. [T]he Biden administration is deciding for Americans which kinds of cars they are allowed to buy, rent, and drive, Senator Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia, said in a statement in March.
This ongoing rift over electric vehicles hints at longer-standing differences between how the parties and their voters view climate change and the potential policy solutions for curbing greenhouse emissions. While many voters care about climate change and support some level of government action to address it, Democrats clean energy policies have come under harsh fire by Republicans. Their battles over the push toward electric vehicles also highlight the challenges in trying to shift attitudes around American cars, a fight that dovetails into the larger cultural divides that shape American politics.
Transportation is one of the biggest contributors to greenhouse gas emissions in the United States, and since the infrastructures of many communities are built around personal vehicle use, encouraging the production and use of vehicles that dont rely on gas is a low-hanging fruit for climate change policy. Indeed, a push to slowly phase out gas-powered vehicles in favor of electric ones has been a centerpiece of Bidens energy policy and his pledge to cut greenhouse gas emissions.
https://abcnews.go.com/538/republican-opposition-slow-push-electric-vehicles/story?id=114980669
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(34,654 posts)...now experiencing.
Electricity is a thermodynamically degraded form of energy, still overwhelmingly made, world wide, from the combustion of dangerous fossil fuels.
I recently referred to a paper showing that on my grid, PJM, an electric car is worse than a straight up gasoline car, since the gasoline car uses a dangerous fossil fuel directly without exergy destruction for the intermediate step of making electricity.
A paper addressing the idea that electric cars are "green."
The graphic therein, from the paper, is straight forward to read.
Like the long running (half a century) hydrogen scam being run interminably, with recent examples here, it's a shell game, designed to avoid facing the reality that shell games only make things worse.
This is should not be a political issue, but rather a technical one. The electricity grid isn't going to magically become independent of fossil fuels without some serious public understanding that the laws of thermodynamics are inviolable and are not up for debate and that reactionary thinking, like wishful thinking, does not change reality.