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mitch96

(14,658 posts)
1. I watched a vid where a guy put an apple air tag in the gastank and engine via the oil fill cap. the car was due to be
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 06:04 AM
Jun 2024

"recycled" at the junk yard. It got crunched and moved around Michigan and then went radio silent. About a month later the air tag and possibly the crunched car wound up in CHINA!!
very strange. I thought China stopped taking our junk.
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marble falls

(62,079 posts)
3. Iron and steel waste isn't junk. One of the reasons Japan attacked the US is because we quit selling the ...
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 06:54 AM
Jun 2024

... the scrap steel and iron they needed to carry on their attrition in China.

Aussie105

(6,270 posts)
2. The stumbling block with recycling:
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 06:17 AM
Jun 2024

There has to be a profit in it, after transport and sorting costs.

The non-profitable stuff goes to landfill.

The soft plastics recycling here in Australia fell flat on its face, no buyers for it.
And not enough of a market for anything made from recycled stuff. Rough toilet paper made from recycled paper, at a higher price than the virgin wood toilet paper?

It was initially stockpiled, waiting for a buyer, then some 'mysterious' fires broke out in the storage facilities.

Need to use less plastics and more stuff that can be recycled - glass, metals.
Or composted - paper, degradable plastics.

Probatim

(3,019 posts)
5. That's the hard part - these companies put the onus for recycling on the consumer, yet...
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 07:07 AM
Jun 2024

they're the ones pushing single use packaging and all packaging with plastics.

It's not a great situation.

thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
8. Everything that used to come in glass bottles comes in plastic these days.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 09:58 AM
Jun 2024

Though the weight of glass bottles means higher transportation costs for those goods, more fuel usage... you can't win!

bucolic_frolic

(47,005 posts)
6. I recall in the 1990s they were going to grind and extrude plastic 2x4's for construction
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 07:55 AM
Jun 2024

I'm still looking for one.

Woodwizard

(991 posts)
9. They do make construction material just not structural.
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 10:17 AM
Jun 2024

Trex is one of the big names composite decking boards ect. Ground up plastic and sawdust.

bucolic_frolic

(47,005 posts)
10. GE Unit Unveils House Built in Material of the Future--Plastic
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 11:11 AM
Jun 2024

PITTSFIELD, Mass. —

The house that high-performance plastics helped build was unveiled Monday, a gracious Colonial dwelling with some decidedly 21st-Century, dream house technology tucked behind its facade.

“We are very excited in sharing with you what we feel the future of home ownership is,” Uwe Wascher, vice president of marketing for GE Plastics, said at the opening of the Living Environments Concept House at the division’s headquarters.

General Electric officials were quick to point out that the engineering plastics used in the house have little in common with the stuff of toys or with the highly futuristic, space-age type of plastic housing that has been experimented with during the past 40 years.

About one-third of the light-beige house is plastic. The total cost is estimated at $10 million, but that includes research and model development.


GE Plastics HQ and Concept House Site, Massachusetts
https://clui.org/ludb/site/ge-plastics-hq-and-concept-house-site

GE's Plastics Concept House (aka Living Environments House) opened in Pittsfield, Massachusetts in 1989 to showcase possible uses of plastic in residential buildings. Featured in this model suburban home were futuristic components such as a centralized computer that ran everything from front door surveillance cameras to the lawn sprinklers, and liquid crystal plastic windows which could change from transparent to opaque at the flick of a switch. Cut away cross sections showed possible plastic construction concepts, including modular plumbing panels and snap-on plastic wall sections. The house used to be open for tours, but by the early 2000s, after being closed and in need of renovations, it was torn down. Pittsfield was home of the headquarters of GE Plastics, for decades one of GE's 12 global businesses, and by far the largest employer in town. In 2007, the division was sold to SABIC (Saudi Basic Industries Corporation) for $11.6 billion, and renamed SABIC Innovative Plastics. SABIC continued to operate the sprawling industrial complex, including the Polymer Processing Development Center (among the largest plastics engineering R&D centers in the world) until 2015 SABIC announced that it would be moving operations from the Pittsfield site to Houston, and relocating other operations to Selkirk, New York; thus completing its exodus from Pittsfield. Historically, plastic research, development, and production in Massachusetts has been significant, from the American Zylonite Company, which opened in Adams in 1881; to the Dupont Viscoloid Company, which was to become the largest employer in the city of Leominster; to Union Products, the manufacturer of the world famous pink flamingo lawn ornament, also of Leominster.

werdna

(930 posts)
7. I remember toting a wagon with a friend or two -
Wed Jun 19, 2024, 08:07 AM
Jun 2024

- going door to door collecting glass soda pop bottles. When purchased, a nickel deposit was paid and when the bottles were returned the nickel was refunded. The bottles were then picked up by the various vendors when they delivered more product; cleaned, sanitized and reused. We would use the money to buy candy and stuff at the local convenience store. Seems to me the system could still be practical today.

Alternatives to single use, petroleum based plastics have been developed using plant-based bio-degradable sources. But, you know, oil companies.

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