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(17,946 posts)
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 07:10 AM Feb 2024

Plug Power Starts Production of Liquid Green Hydrogen at largest U.S. plant

On January 23, Plug Power announced it has started operation of the largest liquid green hydrogen plant in the U.S. Located in Woodbine, Georgia, eight 5-megawatt (MW) PEM electrolyzers produce hydrogen gas that is then condensed into liquid form at -423°F. The plant is designed to produce 15 tons per day (TPD) of liquid electrolytic hydrogen that will be delivered to customers’ hydrogen fueling stations through Plug’s logistics network using Plug cryogenic trailers.
From: fchea.org

Full Press Release from Plug Power:
https://www.ir.plugpower.com/press-releases/news-details/2024/Plug-Power-Starts-Production-of-Liquid-Green-Hydrogen-at-its-Georgia-Plant/default.aspx

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Plug Power Starts Production of Liquid Green Hydrogen at largest U.S. plant (Original Post) Think. Again. Feb 2024 OP
An electrolyzer is a device which wastes energy. NNadir Feb 2024 #1
Yeah... Think. Again. Feb 2024 #2

NNadir

(34,661 posts)
1. An electrolyzer is a device which wastes energy.
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 08:59 AM
Feb 2024

"Green hydrogen" is by its very nature an oxymoron, foisted to market fossil fuels.

Anyone hyping 40 MW of electrolyzers is clueless about energy and the environment and is working to generate complacency in a wholly dishonest fashion. At a generous - overly generous - 65% thermodynamic efficiency, ignoring the imperfect Faradaic efficiency and the onerous energy and environmental cost of compression and cooling, it would take a 60 MW of power continously operated to produce this trivial and insignificant amount of hydrogen. Fifty years of this tiresome bullshit - half a century - of the "green hydrogen" lie has contributed to leaving the planet in flames, not that the fossil fuel salespeople and salesbots and sockpuppets here and elsewhere trying to rebrand dangerous fossil fuels as "hydrogen" give a rat's ass about the environment.

Have a wonderful day.

Think. Again.

(17,946 posts)
2. Yeah...
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 11:10 AM
Feb 2024

...energy is lost whenever it's transferred.

Even just charging an EV can use up to 25% more energy than actually ends up in the battery.

But, we have to move away from fossil fuels and so we'll have to use the technology we have until a magical technology that doesn't lose energy when transferred is discovered.

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