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US electric vehicle sales to hit record this year, but still lag behind China and GermanyUpdated 7:54 AM EST, November 23, 2023
Electric vehicle sales are expected to hit a record 9% of all passenger vehicles in the U.S. this year, according to Atlas Public Policy. That will be up from 7.3% of new car sales in 2022.
It will be the first time more than 1 million EVs are sold in the U.S. in one calendar year, probably reaching between 1.3 million and 1.4 million cars, the research firm predicts.
Although the numbers show significant progress for electrification, the nation is lagging behind countries like China, Germany and Norway.
EVs reached 33% of sales in China, 35% in Germany, and 90% in Norway for the first six months of 2023, according to a BloombergNEF EV outlook published in June. These figures include both battery electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid EVs.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,568 posts)They wouldnt lie to us, would they?
madville
(7,461 posts)They over promised and then didnt deliver on many things. A major problem is theyre still focused on high dollar trucks and SUVs, they want to sell their $80,000-$120,000 trims and are introducing those first before the cheaper base models. But with the exception of Tesla, the rest are losing money on each EV they sell. Ford lost an average of $62,000 on each EV they sold in the 3rd quarter this year. That isnt sustainable.
GM is delaying production of several of their models because theyll actually be saving money by NOT selling at a loss at this time. The Bolt was selling good but it was losing $9,000 on each one sold so GM ended production to replace it with the Equinox. But they over promised the entry-level Equinox at $30,000 and have already had to raise it to $35,000 and havent even delivered one yet. Theyll be losing money on it too.
Theyre in a pickle. Theyve committed to their EV strategy but it is costing them billions in loses. If they sold them at their true cost, theyd sell very few because most would be over $100,000.
madville
(7,461 posts)And $60,000-$100,000 rapidly becomes less attractive. Plus they still only fit a niche portion of the population, the ones that can afford an expensive vehicle, have a home to place a level 2 charger, and are interested in EV technology. They dont make sense for people that cant charge at home at residential electric rates since public Level 3 charging now more expensive than gas.