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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:38 AM Feb 2015

Black Girls Are Suspended from School Six Times More Often Than White Girls


Black Girls Are Suspended from School Six Times More Often Than White Girls

By Jenny Kutner, Salon

A new report indicates that young women are being neglected in efforts to eradicate the "school-to-prison pipeline."

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Black Girls Are Suspended from School Six Times More Often Than White Girls (Original Post) Panich52 Feb 2015 OP
please cross post in women's rights and issues. niyad Feb 2015 #1
OK. But next time, feel free to share Panich52 Feb 2015 #4
You wouldn't think that teachers would be a hotbed of racism mwrguy Feb 2015 #2
Not all data are bad. Igel Feb 2015 #3
by the way, the russian word is "nyet" niyad Feb 2015 #5
Teachers don't expel students Nevernose Feb 2015 #6

Igel

(36,147 posts)
3. Not all data are bad.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:06 PM
Feb 2015

Not all are good.

But it's always a good idea to question your assumptions. Statistics neither lie nor tell the truth. They are interpreted.

Words are the same way.

"Net."

Did I just refer to something you fish with? Or did I type the Russian word for "no"?

You can't tell, can you? They look exactly the same.

There's just one problem.







Je n'ecris pas chacun d'eux. J'ai ecris le mot francais pour "clean."
I didn't type either. I typed the French word for 'clean'. But you probably ruled out the "right" answer because of assumptions that you carried into the thread, modified by the false choice I put in front of you.

It's the same with stats, esp. in the era of data dredging and unpublished results. So some bilingual psych studies were very informative. They showed that to be bilingual was to have greater mental focus, IQ, etc. Except that only the studies that showed that were published; the other studies that showed no results weren't. The result? The published studies lost all statistical significance. There's no "there" there because the statistics didn't lie but the researchers did. The assumption was that the data were random. They weren't. They were chosen. So the statistical analysis didn't apply. (Actually it's more likely that the psychologists involved didn't lie; they were just over their heads when it came to the statistical methods they applied mechanically. They failed to question their assumptions.)

But seriously--the more "advocate" the research is likely to be, the more socially relevant or "important" in some economic or political or social way, the more likely it is to be non-reproducible or to be rejected if the results don't match expectations.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
6. Teachers don't expel students
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 08:40 PM
Feb 2015

Administrators do.

(Although I'm sure there are plenty of racist teachers out there, expulsion's bit one of the things we can blame on them)

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