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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 04:15 PM Jul 2014

Why so many kids can’t sit still in school today

By Valerie Strauss

The Centers for Disease Control tells us that in recent years there has been a jump in the percentage of young people diagnosed with Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder, commonly known as ADHD: 7.8 percent in 2003 to 9.5 percent in 2007 and to 11 percent in 2011. The reasons for the rise are multiple, and include changes in diagnostic criteria, medication treatment and more awareness of the condition. In the following post, Angela Hanscom, a pediatric occupational therapist and the founder of TimberNook, a nature-based development program designed to foster creativity and independent play outdoors in New England, suggests yet another reason more children are being diagnosed with ADHD, whether or not they really have it: the amount of time kids are forced to sit while they are in school. This appeared on the TimberNook blog.

By Angela Hanscom

A perfect stranger pours her heart out to me over the phone. She complains that her 6-year-old son is unable to sit still in the classroom. The school wants to test him for ADHD (attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder). This sounds familiar, I think to myself. As a pediatric occupational therapist, I’ve noticed that this is a fairly common problem today.

The mother goes on to explain how her son comes home every day with a yellow smiley face. The rest of his class goes home with green smiley faces for good behavior. Every day this child is reminded that his behavior is unacceptable, simply because he can’t sit still for long periods of time.

The mother starts crying. “He is starting to say things like, ‘I hate myself’ and ‘I’m no good at anything.’” This young boy’s self-esteem is plummeting all because he needs to move more often.


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Why so many kids can’t sit still in school today (Original Post) n2doc Jul 2014 OP
teacher needs to give the kid things to do that play to his strength - moving nt msongs Jul 2014 #1
but that would actually be "teaching," instead of "administering tests" villager Jul 2014 #3
K/R, and I've been saying this for years. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #2
'Children are going to class with bodies that are less prepared to learn than ever before. elleng Jul 2014 #4
The early childhood experts are summarily ignored by education reformers. QED Jul 2014 #8
but you can't get a profit from kids play LittleGirl Jul 2014 #9
I'm glad I grew up in the days of tree forts and apple wars. NBachers Jul 2014 #20
Because school's closed for summer recess. nt TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #5
(rim-shot) n2doc Jul 2014 #6
no brainer Cryptoad Jul 2014 #7
THAT ^^ LittleGirl Jul 2014 #10
THAT ^^ X2 TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #12
We never sat still. Igel Jul 2014 #11
Yes. elleng Jul 2014 #14
And yet, one could make the argument that today's youth iemitsu Jul 2014 #15
When I was in school I had the same problem so they doped me with Ritalin. rickyhall Jul 2014 #13
in my day... unionthug777 Jul 2014 #16
Yes It Was grilled onions Jul 2014 #18
I'm so god damn sick of the medicating of kids IkeRepublican Jul 2014 #17
I know, just from what I had for recess time and what they give kids today glowing Jul 2014 #19
I was that kid maindawg Jul 2014 #21
+1 lunasun Jul 2014 #28
My pediatrician encouraged switching to water TBF Jul 2014 #22
The things that USED to happen in kindergarten were exactly what a child that Squinch Jul 2014 #23
Kids attention spans Dayton L. Kitchens Jul 2014 #24
This is great. LWolf Jul 2014 #25
privatize playground and recess management... mike_c Jul 2014 #26
Children need 10 hours of sleep each day, otherwise some keep up their awareness, by extra activity. DhhD Jul 2014 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #29
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villager

(26,001 posts)
3. but that would actually be "teaching," instead of "administering tests"
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jul 2014

classroom facilitators are just hired for the latter, now...

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. K/R, and I've been saying this for years.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jul 2014

In my line of work, I get to see kids of all ages, and I work with adults, too.

Over time it becomes very clear that teacher centered activities don't work with any age group, and are increasingly unsuccessful as kids get older.

We beat the creativity and passion out of them as we try to make them conform.

The industry doesn't help, killing off hands-on programs and focusing more on the three Rs and test scores.

I've concluded that I'm ADHD, maybe we all are.

PS, I have many years in the classroom, additional years as an admin, and an advanced degree in education.

I'm out of there now but still providing services.

elleng

(136,185 posts)
4. 'Children are going to class with bodies that are less prepared to learn than ever before.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 04:24 PM
Jul 2014

A local elementary teacher tells me that at least eight of her twenty-two students have trouble paying attention on a good day. At the same time, children are expected to sit for longer periods of time. In fact, even kindergarteners are being asked to sit for thirty minutes during circle time at some schools.

The problem: children are constantly in an upright position these days. It is rare to find children rolling down hills, climbing trees, and spinning in circles just for fun. Merry-go-rounds and teeter-totters are a thing of the past. Recess times have shortened due to increasing educational demands, and children rarely play outdoors due to parental fears, liability issues, and the hectic schedules of modern-day society. Lets face it: Children are not nearly moving enough, and it is really starting to become a problem. . .

We quickly learned after further testing, that most of the children in the classroom had poor core strength and balance. In fact, we tested a few other classrooms and found that when compared to children from the early 1980s, only one out of twelve children had normal strength and balance. Only one! Oh my goodness, I thought to myself. These children need to move!'

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Where are all the early childhood education geniuses???

QED

(2,958 posts)
8. The early childhood experts are summarily ignored by education reformers.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 05:51 PM
Jul 2014

And now they want to start this test prep/college and career ready crap in preschool.

It's insane.

Igel

(36,128 posts)
11. We never sat still.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jul 2014

Now, though, it's expected to sit still more than ever. Fewer activities that allow kids to blow off steam.

Different acculturation.

We can even make the case that once a set of behaviors has been classed as a "disease" it's easier to spot, easier to record, and, well, who doesn't want to blame something external to their kid for their kid's problem?

Oddly, though, the entire ADHD diagnosis pattern has long been noticed to not only be increasing over time, but to have a geographical skew. http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/prevalence.html

Lately it's probably also true that a shorter attention span has been producing more problems--you have to *build* attention capacity, and for the last 40 years everything we've been making our kids do and watch has been aimed to satisfying that need of the mammalian brain for short, fast, bright colored things. Movies, games, modes of interaction. It sells movies, music, and services--but in the long term it's a crappy idea. It used to be that you could count on average attention span being age + 5 minutes, I think it was. Good luck getting the average 15-year-old to have a 20-minute attention span.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
15. And yet, one could make the argument that today's youth
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jul 2014

do not spend enough time in quite, reflective contemplation either. One needs time, without music, texting, television, and things-that-need-to be-done-right-now to figure out the meaning of life.
Too busy for exercise and too busy to think. Sad.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
13. When I was in school I had the same problem so they doped me with Ritalin.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jul 2014

Which I replaced with pot when I was a teenager. My problem in my opinion was boredom. When the class was interesting I was fine.

grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
18. Yes It Was
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:08 PM
Jul 2014

Today they have lost imagination. While many of the school kids wait for something to entertain we just got creative. It's little wonder kids are so bored at school. Teachers cannot take the time to stretch those minds and kids have little time to stretch,period. Kids used to get to blow off steam. It was called recess. Too many schools ban balls,playground equipment and games where the goal is to actually win! It's bad enough that their toys/games are all electronic and books are so dull. We need to energize the classroom and not test them so much that school should be called exam class.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
17. I'm so god damn sick of the medicating of kids
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jul 2014

School is boring forgettable bullshit, handed out by castrated districts/administrators/teachers who aren't allowed to make any real decisions - EXCEPT recommend your kid be medicated.

This shit started in the late 80's when I was in school. I remember it quite well. All of a sudden Ritalin came on the scene, entry testing started taking place, corporal punishment was abolished and the asshole kids were essentially allowed free reign of the place.

I don't doubt for a second this got it's start right after Saint Ray-Gun gave Big Pharm unfettered access to push their diseased penis into everyone's affairs.

It's all designed to make the kids stupid zombies who say yes to everything, ie make them malleable consumers and corporate serfs.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
19. I know, just from what I had for recess time and what they give kids today
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jul 2014

is drastically different in just 25 - 30yrs. We used to have a 15 min outside break in the Am and Pm plus a 1/2 hr after lunch (so 1hr off of study and in seats). And not a bit of it effected our learning or comprehension. We always had good test scores on those assessments which used to be a teacher/ student/ parent help aid along with the school work we did in the classroom.

Now, they have so little time outside to just let loose. And really, kids that age have about 15 to 20 mins where they can focus and learn and retain. After 30mins, they won't retain it. Focus isn't that long for young children.

I happened to go to a small school that went up to 8th grade and we all got that same break time away from our desks, time to talk and chit chat, and just have a good brain break in between subjects. It seems insane how we are subjecting our young children from being young and having imagination and free time to think and have time to hang out with friends and run around a bit, into monotone drones.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
21. I was that kid
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jul 2014

I have a theory. I think that we have been fed a high sugar diet. Our diet is full of sugar, refined sugar. Ever since I was a kid, we ate tons of sugar and carbs. It got worse when they invented all the new fangled baby luxuries such as disposable diapers, modern medicine is a big reason and car seats , and the tippy cup and juice. The tippy cup, and juice are the reason our kids are all ADHD. When you have a group of rug rats running around you give them juice till they crash and then you get through another day. They all get ADHD.
Or you feed them cerial, and soup and carbs and candy.And hot dogs till they are plump little
beggars. They either get obese or get crazy. Or both.
We live in a toxic world. They are poisoning us and our children. When we complain about it , they treat us with scorn. They hate Al Gore and Micheal Moore. I guess what I am saying is, sugar is bad.

TBF

(34,348 posts)
22. My pediatrician encouraged switching to water
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jul 2014

when my kids were toddlers. My little boy will drink a large sports bottle of water every day - he carries it around the house with him. He's also allowed to have a water bottle at school so it continues through the school year. He's not particularly athletic but we get him outside when he's home and encourage biking, swimming etc even if he doesn't want to play a sport.

Not enough recess time, too much sugar, and way too many standardized tests.

This isn't brain surgery.

Squinch

(52,812 posts)
23. The things that USED to happen in kindergarten were exactly what a child that
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 10:42 PM
Jul 2014

age needs to be learning at kindergarten age. Kindergarten had games like duck duck goose, which is a perfect game that some genius devised that allows children to learn self regulation and the ability to sit still. They sit still for a while and then they are rewarded after a few minutes with a burst of activity, which is exactly what they need. Today, instead, they sit still for 7 hours and get NO activity.

All those kid games and activities are perfect for teaching the things that a child needs to be learning at that age.

The problem is not that these kids have ADHD, it's that the adults making the curriculum are morons.

24. Kids attention spans
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:12 AM
Jul 2014

Has anyone mentioned yet the impact of the massive use of personal electronic devices on teenagers attention spans yet?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
25. This is great.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jul 2014

It's too true that the system sets kids up to spend way too much time sitting still.

There are all kinds of reasons why; they boil down to demands that we not "waste" instructional time, to behavior management, and to funding issues. Time is money.

Some of us do all kinds of things to try to get kids moving, if only briefly, off and on throughout the day. It's still not enough.

mike_c

(36,337 posts)
26. privatize playground and recess management...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jul 2014

...and the winning contract bid will certainly mandate hefty minimum facilities use guarantees, so the kids will get outside more often.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
27. Children need 10 hours of sleep each day, otherwise some keep up their awareness, by extra activity.
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jul 2014

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