Education
Related: About this forumA final message to my students after my firing
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/18/1217134/-A-final-message-to-my-studentsThe system works.
That I write these words may surprise those who are aware that my employer of the last 10 years, the Joplin R-8 Board of Education, voted 7-0 to terminate my contract earlier this month.
The decision did not surprise me. I was fully aware that teachers rarely survive termination hearings. This hearing, not permanent employment, is the only thing that tenure offers, despite the protestations of the so-called reformers, who insist it is keeping thousands of bad teachers in the classrooms.
Not a single parent or student complained about me. The primary witnesses were six administrators. Though the charges against me had nothing to do with any kind of pedophilia, the districts human resources manager insisted that when she interviewed girls about me, they were so supportive of me that she saw signs of grooming. My lawyer vigorously objected to the womans loaded language, but it was allowed to remain on the record.
Other such innuendo was sprinkled throughout the administrators testimony with the board president noting each of my attorneys objections and then allowing the remarks to continue unimpeded.
patrice
(47,992 posts)that's taken as an unquestioned fact, when whatever she saw could have been any number of effects from other factors.
calimary
(84,332 posts)Code language for something teabaggers don't like?
What is that supposed to mean?
Squinch
(52,746 posts)they had to make up any old shit to get rid of him. The more cruel and destructive the better.
Weird ass code those administrators have, isn't it?
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I've read his blog for years. He wrote about legislation and policy and the tornado recently but he didn't openly criticize his district.
Squinch
(52,746 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)But they used his book because that was an easier way to get him.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)pedophiles use to get children to trust them.
Apparently in this case students that didn't hate their teacher was "evidence" of grooming. Given what went down, had they hated the teacher it would have been "evidence" of abuse.
DURHAM D
(32,836 posts)wilsonbooks
(972 posts)It has to be the book (1+ / 0-)
It is not the board. It is the two top administrators in the district and it appears to all be about the book No Child Left Alive. The book is a satire about a year in a dysfunctional high school in a dysfunctional school district where education and discipline have been sacrificed as ambitious administrators push their own agendas. I have been told that the satire hit too close to home. There are a few people, including one of the reporters who covered the case, who think that my problems can be traced back to my personal blog While I never wrote about the school district on the blog, except in positive ways, I was warned about writing about politicians and other friends of the administrators. There are also a few people who believe administration was sending a message that if you step out of line, you are going to be crushed. I can't be for sure if it is one of those things or something else that I haven't even thought about. In my 22 years as a newspaper reporter, I covered stories involving corrupt cops and politicians, child murderers, and absolute lunatics, but I never ran into anything like this. Any teacher, even one who had tenure as I had, can be removed, simply for violating school policies. There was no need for them to create something like that to get rid of me so you are right, something is missing here.
by rturner229 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 10:08:11 PM PDT
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)She got wrongfully convicted of child abuse, and the system totally worked against her and didn't provide adequate defense counsel, etc. and how they prosecuted her and convicted her was totally messed up. She got out when an Appeals court saw that the system had messed up and wrongfully convicted her.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/07/substitute_teachers_sex-abuse.html
I got to know her a year ago and she's become a good friend now, as this is now a part of her life and she's looking to help fix the situation here in Oregon so that it can offer better protection for those like herself from such situations like has been done more in other states like California. I can imagine that this guy feels similarly "trapped" in a situation which he shouldn't have to deal with alone. I think I might forward this story to her.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Turner's case is not unique; in fact, teachers have been fired for a lot less than his bogus case.
It's all about administrators' desire to save face, and they will throw teachers under the bus to do it.
And yes, they can and do fabricate charges against teachers in order for them to save their own jobs.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Her name is there on the "blacklist":
http://www.tspc.state.or.us/temp_images/C00078510PR01285904.pdf
It does state that it "can reconsider" the revocation if she is completely exonerated.
If they don't, sue.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)If you go to her web site at:
http://www.justiceforlucinda.org/
You can see that she cut a plea deal that perhaps prevents her from suing them. Not sure. But I do know that I met her shortly after she was freed at a local political party committee meeting here where many have known her and supported her through this ordeal. She helped provide testimony in a recent trip to our state legislature not much more than a month ago. She made a big difference in some legislation with her personal accounts she spoke of in her testimony as a part of their proceedings, and actually had some Republicans apologizing to her afterwards. I think she's found a way to continue her life doing constructive and rewarding things, even if it might not have been what she initially set out to do.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)When the regular teacher returned to work, the student told her that the substitute teacher had touched her between the legs, according to the account, triggering the investigation by Woodburn police.
The opinion raises several questions about the case against Hites-Clabaugh, noting that the Woodburn officer did not view the school hallway where the alleged abuse occurred and did not interview any other students or teachers. The student could not name the substitute teacher nor could she identify Hites-Clabaugh at the trial. The police officer admitted that he did not know the county's protocols for investigating child abuse.
Hites-Clabaugh maintained that the abuse never took place. But in her trial, presided over by Marion County Circuit Judge Lynn Ashcroft, a jury found her guilty in a 10-2 verdict. Marion County Circuit Judge Dale Penn sentenced her in August 2010 to a prison term of six years and three months.
"a 10-2 verdict"?
Isn't that pretty much the definition of "reasonable doubt"?
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/07/substitute_teachers_sex-abuse.html
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Of course this isn't from a media source, but you can tell that proper procedures in talking to the girl alleging the incident weren't followed, and the court system and the prosecutors appeared to be more interested in getting through a case and getting another notch on their conviction board rather than really dispense justice. I can't speak for her completely, but I recall she had an appointed defense attorney, and not one she hired herself, and that perhaps this was part of the problem as well, as a more competent and motivated defense attorney would have made sure that the case were investigated properly and prosecuted properly as well.
If you are a jury, and you don't have the case presented to you properly, you could render a wrong verdict. It's been done before as DNA tests have shown in many other cases, and it will be done again. As important as a jury decision is, it is equally as important that the process of investigation and prosecution is done properly as well, which starts with the school, continues with the police, and ends with the prosecution attorneys and judge if it goes to court.
Tafiti
(1,723 posts)Oregon and I believe Louisiana are the only ones that do not require a unanimous jury to convict someone, although I think 10-2 is the floor in Oregon and 9-3 in Louisiana. In the 70s, the Supreme Court ruled that the Sixth Amendment requires a unanimous jury in criminal convictions in federal court, but the Fourteenth does not impose the same requirement on state court convictions.
Baitball Blogger
(48,060 posts)woofless
(2,670 posts)Some things I miss about Joplin. The school board is not one of them.
Woof
wilsonbooks
(972 posts)We do miss you in these parts but I am glad you have found a home in a more congenial neighborhood. Fortunately my Sarah is in an excellent private school and not subject to the moronic administration in the joplin school system.
GladRagDahl
(237 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Can you appeal?
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)My "union" absolutely shafted me in order to cut deals with the district when a wrongful termination happened to me. I was not told of my right to file a complaint with EEOC, and without that letter to sue, it was impossible to get a lawyer to take my case. All of the statutes of limitations have expired.
I think in Turner's case, he's looking into it.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)I'm hoping he does sue.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)and gets a good settlement out of it, but he's screwed out of ever being able to resume a teaching career.
This termination was a result of some administrator being insulted because she believed she was being portrayed in that book.
It's all about saving face with these administrators, and they are gods in public ed.
pacalo
(24,738 posts)Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)I did a good job for my last employer but I had gotten on the bad side of regional level management and they had it in for me. They finally got me on progressive disciplinary action and I waited two months for my discharge hearing.
Despite my Union rep presenting multiple points of order on every disciplinary letter, the arbitrator insisted on hearing the case instead of throwing it out, like it should have been. The charges were non factual, non specific and unjust but it didn't matter. As the hearing progressed it was like being punched in the stomach over and over. The Local presented an over one hour long case on my behalf but I still lost.
The company told multiple lies about me to bolster their case and it worked. I was made out to be a good for nothing when I was actually a reliable and compliant worker. I have a pretty good idea of the sense of injustice that teacher is feeling right now.
If you have a case go before an arbitrator, better go ahead and get your resume in order. You will probably lose. Union power has been eroded to the point that you have only a little more job security than in a non union workplace.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)The only way teachers get reinstated by school districts is if they have an outside lawyer.
I was psychologically raped by that school district, and all on the basis of lies because a couple of administrators wanted to cover their worthless asses, and I have never recovered any confidence in my ability to teach or to do any kind of meaningful work.
All of the players in a termination hearing are in bed with each other. I learned that the hard way, and I have yet to find regular employment five years later. Never told of my EEOC rights by my "union," and it am sure it was deliberate, so I missed that statute of limitations there.
Warpy
(113,130 posts)for slander and he will probably win.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)we have had three incidents at our school.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)The character, of course, was an unfavorable character.