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alp227

(32,459 posts)
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:50 AM Jun 2013

New York to Evaluate Teachers With New System

The New York State education commissioner broke a long and acrimonious impasse on Saturday by imposing a new evaluation system that would rate New York City teachers in part on their students’ test scores and streamline the disciplinary process.

The new system, announced after three hectic days of meetings, testimony and arbitration that involved the Bloomberg administration and the teachers’ union, finally brought New York City into compliance with state law — the last district in the state to do so.

“It’s time. The students have waited too long,” said the commissioner, John B. King Jr., adding that the new plan would “help improve teaching and learning and give New York City students a much better opportunity to graduate from high school with the knowledge and skills they need to succeed in college and their careers.”

In something of a compromise, Mr. King’s plan would make New York City — with more than 1.1 million public school students, 75,000 teachers and 1,700 schools — the only district in the state that would leave a significant part of the implementation of the evaluations up to individual schools, with teachers perhaps having the chance to weigh in with administrators on how they are rated.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/02/nyregion/new-evaluation-system-for-new-york-teachers.html

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New York to Evaluate Teachers With New System (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2013 OP
"The students have waited too long"----??? femmocrat Jun 2013 #1
That was my response, too. knitter4democracy Jun 2013 #2
"with teachers perhaps having the chance to weigh in with administrators on how they are rated. " mbperrin Jun 2013 #3
And the real problems in public education, the administrators, duffyduff Jun 2013 #4
Elephant in the living room. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #6
Same question I always ask: proud2BlibKansan Jun 2013 #5

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. "The students have waited too long"----???
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 06:42 AM
Jun 2013

As if the students give a crap about it. Hey kids, it means more pressure on you to test well! Drill, baby, drill!

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
2. That was my response, too.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:33 AM
Jun 2013

Ask a group of kids who the worst teacher in the school is, and you'll get a different answer every time with at least one student defending the so-called worst teacher. The kids don't care about this. They really don't.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
3. "with teachers perhaps having the chance to weigh in with administrators on how they are rated. "
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:44 AM
Jun 2013

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! The horror!!!!!!! Some semblance of DUE PROCESS!!!! NOOOOOOOO!

No state wants to pay for a real evaluation system - a longitudinal study tracking every student to the grave with their outcomes correlated to which teachers and subjects they had during their time in public schools, adjusted for socioeconomic factors, historical events, genetic inheritance, and students' own definitions of success or failure at the terminal point of their lives.

Anything less is a fart in the wind.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
4. And the real problems in public education, the administrators,
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jun 2013

will go about business as usual, destroying teachers' careers as if it were blood sport.

I don't believe teachers will ever have the opportunity to have any say on how they are evaluated. Not with the outrageous power imbalance between the two groups.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
6. Elephant in the living room.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 12:27 PM
Jun 2013

Genuine reform would start... and largely end, really.... if that were recognized.

The way most ed systems work.. the worst candidates in the ranks seek , and rise into the leadership roles.

Money, power over other adults and a fascination w. gaming the system for their own material benefit seem to be the big attractions.

In other words... they're natural allies for corporate reformers. Esp w. the gobs of extra corporate cash laying around for ez access by those who know how to do it.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
5. Same question I always ask:
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jun 2013

How are the P.E. teachers evaluated? Music?

Will they attempt to have high stakes testing in every subject, as they are trying to do in Florida?

This is just insane.

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