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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:57 AM May 2013

More bullcrap education deform

Academic underperformance
The biggest sticking point in education reform in California is the push to link academic performance of the students to the evaluation of the teachers. Reformers, including Michelle Rhee and her Students First organization, have focused on the need for better teacher evaluations. Teachers unions have resisted, and movement toward changing the rules has stalled.

Yet it has been known for decades that teachers are the best predictor of student academic performance. There’s anecdotal evidence that poorly performing educators stay on the job because the legal and administrative hurdles to move them out of the classroom seem overwhelming (Rhee refers to the shuffling of poor quality teachers as “the dance of the lemons.”) But no one knew the size of the problem.

Now a trio of public policy graduate students at Stanford’s Institute for Economic Policy Research have published a paper that puts a number on the size of the problem of under-performing teachers in California public school classrooms. You can read the Open Forum written by students Michael Kent, Dennis Li and Chris Frank here. You can read their full paper, written for the Education Trust-West, here.

Teachers are on the front line of preparing our state for the future, for educating our children to thrive in the changing economy. Please chime in on this discussion. We welcome your Letter to the Editor, which you can submit here.

http://blog.sfgate.com/opinionshop/2013/05/08/academic-underperformance/

more crap, beginning with the 'bad teachers are the cause of student problems' fallacy. An interesting comment from the readers:

This is a very interesting report. Thank you for sharing. Page 12 of the PDF states the following:

"Rural schools and schools with higher percentages of African American and Native American students are likely to have increased proportions of underperforming teachers, controlling for other demographic factors. By contrast, as the percentage of white students in a school increase, the number of underperforming teachers decreases."


Gee, almost sounds like there is another, controlling, variable (could it be parental involvement or the economic status of the parents?) not being accounted for here.....
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zazen

(2,978 posts)
1. these methodologists claim they control for that
Fri May 10, 2013, 09:12 AM
May 2013

(or at least the ones running the numbers here in North Carolina) and that the issue is that the "best teachers" don't choose to teach in schools in these neighborhoods. So, they still pin it on teachers.

Yeah, I detest this neoliberal crapola too.

"Educating our children to thrive in the changing economy." How can anyone write that without their body involuting from hypocrisy?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. Clearly they aren't controlling it enough
Fri May 10, 2013, 09:23 AM
May 2013

Because the trends are still there. They have a conclusion they want to reach, and by jove, they will reach it!

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
5. Teachers have little to do with academic performance
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:02 PM
May 2013

After all, it is up to the student's desire or ability to learn. You can't cram that down another person's throat.

The "reformers" are a pack of liars.

"Underperforming" teachers are the best ones, you can bank on that, but they are the oldest, most veteran teachers.

The author of the piece is nothing but a goddamned fucking liar. It is EASY as hell to get rid of teachers no matter how good, bad, or indifferent they are.

Administrative law heavily favors school districts.


 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
6. I wanted to ask about funding.
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:02 AM
May 2013

In other words... where's the cash for this study coming from? Who pays the bills?

"Education Trust-West"? What's that?

No place for comments on ET-W link. (Or questions.)

The other link requires registration, etc.

No thanks.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
7. ed trust west is part of The Education Trust.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 05:08 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.edtrust.org/west

http://www.edtrust.org/dc/about


Ed Trust is run by a former Children's Defense Fund person and is funded by the usual suspects:

The work of The Education Trust is supported by:

BelleJAR Foundation
The Eli and Edythe Broad Foundation
California Education Policy Fund
Carnegie Corporation of New York
The Annie E. Casey Foundation
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
The Ford Foundation
Walter & Elise Haas Fund
The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation
IBM
The James Irvine Foundation
The Joyce Foundation
W.K. Kellogg Foundation
Lumina Foundation for Education
MetLife Foundation
The Skillman Foundation
State Farm Companies Foundation
The Wallace Foundation
The Walton Family Foundation

http://www.edtrust.org/dc/about/funders

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