Have you ever taken or given an IQ test?

[BigmanPigman]

I was trained as a teacher of the Gifted and Talented and I have taken them as I prepared for the credential and I also administered them. I also was given an IQ test as were all the students in my high school in the 9th and 11th grades. It is a test that is based on patterns so that language isn't a factor. Once a 3rd grade teacher told me that a student who took the longest to complete the test was from India and she watched him actually turn the test paper around and around, viewing it from different angles. He scored at the genius IQ level. My sister and my niece also scored in the genius level. My sister attended Penn, the same Ivy league school as the moron. My family has many doctors, researchers, etc in professions that require intelligence and I do not know what their IQs are/were but I can assure you that none of them, none of my students, none of my fellow teachers, and none of my fellow students throughout all of my years as a student and educator ever once claimed how intelligent they are.

The moron may have gotten into an Ivy League school, but I doubt he is a genius from my experience. I DO want to see his scores. If he scores over 145 than he is a genius. Yet, that doesn't mean he is intelligent either. Many people have photographic memories but that is all it is...they can not apply it to specific problems/solutions in everyday jobs and their own lives. As a teacher of students with special needs means those student with both high and low IQs. They are all "special" and that means that they have specific learning strengths and weaknesses. The moron in chief most likely has special needs but from what I have gathered it is due to mental disabilities...extreme narcissistic, sociopath disorders which make him unfit to serve as president...even an illegitimate one.

[madaboutharry]

1. That is my own experience with family

and other people I have known who were well educated and successful professionals. Never once has anyone, not a single person, ever found the need to brag about where they went to school or inform others how intelligent they were.

[defacto7]

2. 145 ain't nothin'

He's got the biggest numbers, the best numbers, the highest numbers. No one has better numbers.

[SCantiGOP]

5. I had the second highest IQ ever measured

Trump beat me out for first place.

(On edit: I forgot to add “Believe Me.”)

[defacto7]

7. I know what you did there!

[AJT]

3. My brothers and I took them in school. The results were given to our parents.

We didn't know the results until we were adults. My youngest brother is a genius. The interesting thing is that my youngest brother is a half brother, we share a mother, and all of the siblings he shares a father with (3) are also geniuses.

[Girard442]

4. It amazes me that IQ is still a thing.

Seriously, does it make any sense that one number is any kind of useful measure of a person's aptitudes? If someone devised a test to reduce people's athletic abilities to a single number, an Athletic Quotient if you will, it would be transparently obvious how lame the idea was.

[murielm99]

6. Look into Gardner's Intelligences.

I learned about them when I got a teaching degree. I don't know if they are widely accepted by psychologists, but teachers learn about them because we have to understand that students are skilled in some areas and weak in others. We have to adapt our teaching to different styles of learning.

IQ measures a different type of intelligence. There is nothing wrong with using IQ as one way to measure intelligence, and a method like Gardner's to measure other intelligences. And yes, there is the equivalent of an Athletic Quotient with Gardner's Intelligences.

[applegrove]

8. Trump is dyslexic without the empathy capacity and big picture. He does

well on is tests because of spatial reasoning and recognizing metaphors (he is always inventing metaphors that have already been invented) and the like. He may have been given the test you describe that had few language questions on it. And spinning the test around is cheating is it not? You are supposed to rotate those spacial questions around in your head. No? Dyslexics have those high and lows in intelligence. Sometimes the work around to an area of low strength gives you a high reasoning ability in something scientific, business or politics related. All the recent GOP presidents are dyslexic since Reagan. Good at counter punching and pulling down the human fictions of others (norms - political images). Plus dyslexics learn in 3D not in prose or 2D. Why Trump was good at building and marketing since he had physically been doing those things since the 60s. Probably Why he is bad a finance. Why he is clueless about government as he has no history in government or experience in policy. If he stuck around presidency for 10-20 years (Lord help us) he might be better at it. Don't know how much of a sociopath he is but he and the GOP are certainly using alot of the tools of one. He is a liar for sure. Narcissistic so much that he can't see the forrest for the trees most dyslexics can. And careless...incredibly careless.

Don't know about my own IQ. I assume I have strengths and weaknesses like any dyslexic. Sciences, politics and business are in my families DNA.

[murielm99]

9. I have never heard highly intelligent people

speak about themselves the way I heard him speak today. Mensa members do not sit around and brag to each other about their IQs, because everyone there is smart. They are there to socialize with people who are like them.

People do have parents who buy their way into Ivy League schools for their children. Apparently trump's daddy bought an Ivy League admission for his dullard son. Also, some people are taken as legacies. If they flunk out, oh well.

If a person scores 132 or above on the Stanford-Binet, they are a genius.

Photographic memory is a controversial area. Some children can have what is called eidetic memory, but it fades over time. Very few adults have what could be termed a photographic memory. There is hyperthymesia. But that is very specific, autobiographical memory.

A person can take an IQ test more than once, and have different results. Age plays a factor too, if you are talking about Stanford-Binet. There are other types of IQ tests, as you mention in your OP. The Miller Analogies test is an IQ test. Mensa accepts the results of that test for admission.

When I was a kid I was given IQ tests three times. I refused to take any more after that. I was starting to feel like a lab rat. The reason I/we were tested so often is that our class was tracked. Not only that, we were supposedly the smartest class in our school district in something like twenty-five years. I don't know if we were supposed to know that, but some of our teachers talked about it. Our biology teacher in particular liked to mention it.

I don't care if 45 is a genius or not. What matters is that he is a madman who might kill us all. Let his handlers soothe him and tell him what he wants to hear. Let them agree that is he the smartest person the world has ever seen. Let them say this all the while they are easing him into a straightjacket and out of office via the twenty-fifth amendment.

[Atman]

10. I took the test in 11th grade.

My guidance counselor used it to tell me how I "wasn't living up to my potential." He knew I was capable — my test results proved it. He said he couldn't tell me the actual test score because when people find out it can screw them up and alter their trajectory. "But let's just say it is somewhere above 140." I had no idea what that meant, and I didn't care.

I'm 58 now. This DU post may well be the first time I've ever told that little story.

All I know is that no intelligent person would ever brag about how intelligent they are. But Trump would.

[Thor_MN]

13. "wasn't living up to my potential" Story of my schooling.

I'm good at taking standardized tests and read voraciously. Trivia seems easy to me. I make a living in IT, although the one official class I had, I knew more than the instructor (Philosophy prof pressured into teaching an intro computer class).

I just find some things easy that others do not. I do not relish proving myself or showing my work to "authority figures" that "manage" what they can not do themselves.

IQ scores are ill suited to older people. IQ scales are age related - mental age / chronological age * 100. Trump is 71. A 140 IQ would give him a mental age over 99. I wouldn't doubt for a second that he has the mental faculties of the average 99 year old.

[PJMcK]

11. Trump couldn't possibly take an IQ test

There is no way he could concentrate for the length of time it would take to complete the test.

Besides, there's really no point to such an exercise. We already know he's an idiot.

[Nitram]

12. It is possible that The Con once scored over 145 on an IQ test. I suspect that in addition to

being a pathological narcissist, he is probably a sociopath as well. The absence of fear and empathy is an advantage in some situations, and a disadvantage in others. I'd say The Con was disadvantaged by his advantages, because he really has no clue (nor does he want one) about the lives or ordinary people. Even with the IQ of a genius there can be huge holes in a person's abilities, as demonstrated by the Con's inability to understand the difference between hardball business negotiations and international relations. Or even the necessity of maintaining good relations with Congress. Several observers who have known The Con over the years say his behavior and even his linguistic patterns have deteriorated over the last decade. He also could be suffering from drug addiction or dementia related to his age, poor diet, and lack of exercise. I very much doubt he'd score very high on IQ test if he took one today. If he even had the attention span to complete one.

[Thor_MN]

14. IQ is mental age / chronological age * 100

For Trump to score a 145 today he would have the mental age of a 103 year old.

Just saying...