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mahatmakanejeeves

(67,992 posts)
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 06:02 AM Tuesday

Employers likely added 40,000 jobs in November as government releases report delayed by shutdown

Associated Press Finance

Employers likely added 40,000 jobs in November as government releases report delayed by shutdown

PAUL WISEMAN
Mon, December 15, 2025 at 9:03 PM EST 4 min read

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. job market is sluggish and confusing this fall. ... American companies are mostly holding onto the employees they have. But they’re reluctant to hire new ones as they struggle to assess how to use artificial intelligence and how to adjust to President Donald Trump’s unpredictable policies, especially his double-digit taxes on imports from around the world.

The uncertainty leaves jobseekers struggling to find work or even land interviews. Federal Reserve policymakers are divided over whether the labor market needs more help from lower interest rates. Their deliberations are rendered more difficult because official reports on the economy’s health are coming in late and incomplete after a 43-day government shutdown. ... The Labor Department is expected to provide at least a little clarity when it releases November numbers on hiring and unemployment Tuesday, 11 days late.

Forecasters surveyed by the data firm FactSet expect that employers added an unimpressive 40,000 jobs last month and that unemployment stayed at 4.4%, unchanged from the last rate published – for September. ... Hiring has clearly lost momentum, hobbled by uncertainty over Trump’s tariffs and the lingering effects of the high interest rates the Fed engineered in 2022 and 2023 to rein in an outburst of inflation. ... Labor Department revisions in September showed that the economy created 911,000 fewer jobs than originally reported in the year that ended in March. That meant that employers added an average of just 71,000 new jobs a month over that period, not the 147,000 first reported. Since March, job creation has fallen farther — to an average 59,000 a month.

During the 2021-2023 hiring boom that followed COVID-19 lockdowns, by contrast, the economy was creating an average of 400,000 jobs a month. ... The unemployment rate, though still modest by historical standards, has risen since bottoming out at a 54-year low of 3.4% in April 2023. ... Adding to the uncertainty is the growing use of artificial intelligence and other technologies that can reduce demand for workers.

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Employers likely added 40,000 jobs in November as government releases report delayed by shutdown (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Tuesday OP
So there. Donnie is always right snowybirdie Tuesday #1
Anything coming out of this present administration is subject.................. Lovie777 Tuesday #2
What to expect from the jobs report today mahatmakanejeeves Tuesday #3
Most important info was tacked on at the end wolfie001 Tuesday #5
Added and hired are two different things DUMember24 Tuesday #4
It's the fake western town movie economy wolfie001 Tuesday #6
The BLS payroll job numbers are the number of people on payrolls being paid. These aren't job postings. progree Tuesday #8
41K Jobs Lost In Oct/Nov, Unemployed Rises To 4.6% mahatmakanejeeves Tuesday #7
MaddowBlog-Unemployment rate reaches a four-year high as Trump's economic woes continue LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #9

Lovie777

(21,558 posts)
2. Anything coming out of this present administration is subject..................
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 06:23 AM
Tuesday

the amount of cover-up, lies, and making up shit is over the top.

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,992 posts)
3. What to expect from the jobs report today
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 07:03 AM
Tuesday
Business > Economy
6 min read

What to expect from the jobs report today

By Alicia Wallace
1 hr 59 min ago


Job seekers speak with recruiters during the SacJobs Career job fair in Sacramento, California, on November 13.

The November jobs report is landing at an odd time – on a Tuesday in mid-December, instead of (what’s usually) the first Friday of the month – due to the lingering impact of the historically long government shutdown.

The 43-day federal funding lapse resulted in a flash-freeze of crucial economic data at a critical juncture for American businesses and households. ... The slow, steady thaw of deferred data over the past month, is building more into a deluge this week: In the next three days, major reports on retail sales, inflation and the labor market will be released.

And the latter two come with a bit of a holiday bonus: The jobs report and the Consumer Price Index release for November both will be packaged with roughly half of October’s data. ... If it wasn’t so unprecedented, it would be quite fitting in a season filled with buy-one-get-one-50%-off deals.

Tuesday morning’s jobs report is expected to show that just 40,000 jobs were added last month and the unemployment rate held steady at 4.4% – historically low but still higher than in recent years. ... Still, economists say the report could be more than a little muddled this time around.

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wolfie001

(6,944 posts)
5. Most important info was tacked on at the end
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 08:51 AM
Tuesday

"....... Still, economists say the report could be more than a little muddled this time around." This report is total bullshit Thanks to the fat orange imbecile.

DUMember24

(93 posts)
4. Added and hired are two different things
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 07:56 AM
Tuesday

Enough with Corporations' HR posting fake jobs to boards for compliance purposes. Job seekers are over it.

wolfie001

(6,944 posts)
6. It's the fake western town movie economy
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 08:55 AM
Tuesday

All an illusion. Pablum for the many stupid and gullible voters.

progree

(12,706 posts)
8. The BLS payroll job numbers are the number of people on payrolls being paid. These aren't job postings.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 02:22 PM
Tuesday

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,992 posts)
7. 41K Jobs Lost In Oct/Nov, Unemployed Rises To 4.6%
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 08:56 AM
Tuesday


41K Jobs Lost In Oct/Nov, Unemployed Rises To 4.6%

December 16, 2025 Economy, Employment

The Washington Post reports:

The U.S. labor market lost 41,000 jobs over October and November, and the unemployment rate ticked up to 4.6 percent, the highest since 2021, underscoring concerns about the strength of the economy.

The long-awaited jobs report by the Labor Department was delayed because of the federal government shutdown, creating headaches for economists and policymakers trying to assess how the labor market slowed this fall, as President Trump’s economic policies, including higher tariffs and immigration enforcement, continue to take hold.

The report does not contain the unemployment rate for October because the government could not collect survey data during the shutdown, a first for the agency since the survey began in 1948. The deferred resignations of tens of thousands of civil servants from the federal government, a program launched by the Trump administration earlier this year, weighed on the labor market in October.

Read the full article. 64,000 jobs were added in November, but the reported job losses in October result in the net negative figure.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,205 posts)
9. MaddowBlog-Unemployment rate reaches a four-year high as Trump's economic woes continue
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 06:03 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Dec 17, 2025, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Unemployment rate reaches a four-year high as Trump’s economic woes continue

Trump, last week: “When will I get credit for having created ... perhaps the Greatest Economy in the History of our Country?”

Reality, this week: The unemployment rate has reached a four-year high and 2025 is the worst year for job growth since the Great Recession. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-12-16T14:05:51.941Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/unemployment-rate-reaches-a-four-year-high-as-trumps-economic-woes-continue

Expectations heading into Tuesday morning were that the economy added roughly 45,000 jobs in November. As it turns out, according to the latest BLS report, those expectations were pretty close to being right. CNBC reported:

Nonfarm payrolls grew slightly more than expected in November, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday in numbers delayed by the government shutdown. Job growth totaled 64,000 for the month. … The unemployment rate rose to 4.6%, more than expected. In addition to the November report, the BLS released an abbreviated October count that showed payrolls down 105,000.


None of this is good news. For one thing, the addition of 64,000 jobs in November reflects a weak job market that’s failing to keep up with population growth. For another, the totals from August and September were revised down, showing 33,000 fewer jobs than previously reported.

But it’s the climbing unemployment rate that really stands out: While 4.6% might seem like a decent number in the abstract, it’s also the highest jobless rate Americans have seen since September 2021. What’s more, the figure is up nearly half a point since Trump returned to office in January......

Last week, as polls showed public support for Trump’s handling of the economy sinking to embarrassing depths, the president responded with a social media message rooted in pathetic self-pity.

“When will I get credit for having created … perhaps the Greatest Economy in the History of our Country?” the Republican wrote. “When will people understand what is happening? When will Polls reflect the Greatness of America at this point in time, and how bad it was just one year ago?

This obviously isn’t the greatest economy in American history; expecting Americans to be grateful for failure is preposterous; and a year ago, the job market was generating far more jobs with a lower unemployment rate.

Indeed, the question for the president and his White House team is simple: If Trump has created “the Greatest Economy in the History of our Country,” why has American job growth slowed to a 15-year low?
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