the abdication of female agency or the gender bait/switch?

[galileoreloaded]

this would be interesting if it wasn't so damned sad and blatantly sexist. people are now devoid of controlling their actions? combating these images is critical for our young boys.



http://www.upworthy.com/6-overused-creepy-sentences-that-i-wish-always-had-these-surprise-endings?c=fea

[Bonobo]

1. It is odd that we create a narrative in which

men, after consuming alcohol, become more predatory and more in responsible for their choices and actions whereas the narrative for women is that they become more powerless and less responsible for their actions and decisions.

[Bonobo]

3. Boys are basically taught

that their penises are dirty and undesirable things.

Girls, on the other hand, are taught that their genitals are desirable gold to be protected from dirty boys.

Men = dirty and undesirable.
Women = golden treasure.

Of course there is some exaggeration in this to make a point, but I think it has a lot of truth.

[opiate69]

14. Well, apparently ...

I'm guilty of rape, since my wife occasionally gets intoxicated and has sex with me.


Edit: Oh, and, bullshit hide on Galileos post there ... our alert stalker strikes again...

[In_The_Wind]

4. It's wonderful when friends help others to avoid possibly disastrous situations.

[lumberjack_jeff]

8. I don't disagree.

But the poster is based on the idea that I should substitute my judgment for hers.

[In_The_Wind]

9. IMO: We are all responsible for our actions.

[lumberjack_jeff]

10. A viewpoint which is often discredited by accusations of "blaming the victim".

Rarely do I hear that particular objection ("you're blaming the victim&quot directed at people who question the judgment of a man who suffers misfortune or victimization.

I wish we could acknowledge the degree to which these discussions are a minefield of no-win scenarios.

Respecting women's agency requires allowing women to drink (even to excess)... unless it appears her impaired judgment will lead her to make bad choices, in which case I become responsible for her conduct. Unfortunately, that responsibility is always retrospective; "I can't believe you let me..." or "I hate how you treated me like a child..." are at least as likely as gratitude the following day.

Personally, I try to err on the side of respecting people's choices. In general, accepting responsibility for another adult's choices is inherently disrespectful toward them.

[In_The_Wind]

11. Clearly, I'm a woman who thinks for herself. Men and women are equal.

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. There are definitely times that I will try to intervene on behalf of friends doing stupid things.

But I don't do it because they are women, but because they are friends whom I know well enough to be pretty sure that they would regret the consequences of that choice.

[In_The_Wind]

13. I've hauled more than one male friend out of harm's way.

Also helped a woman if/when she needed it.

I've lived alone for most of my life. I look carefully before I leap into action cause usually there is no one to watch my back, until recently.

I was an abused child so I find it impossible to trust anyone to watch out for me. The thing that helped me the most was when a Native American gifted me with these words: Forgive yourself for not forgiving those who who have harmed you. I cried many tears over the years before and after his gift. I'm happier now because of his kindness.

[MrSlayer]

5. Actually, I have no problem with this.

Friends are supposed to take care of each other. And dudes are always scheming on drunk chicks. That case in Ohio with the football players happens all the time.

[Bonobo]

6. I agree with you.

But that does not change my opinion stated above that there is a socialization process in effect in which boys are taught that their penises are dirty things and girls the opposite.

[MrSlayer]

7. And I agree with you.

That is pretty much the way it is. It's not an absolute but it is general. And that sentiment isn't limited to one gender. Many guys consider themselves sexually unclean too.