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theKed

(1,235 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:46 PM Apr 2013

Psychology Today - Does Pornography Cause Social Harm?

The Internet became a major force in everyday life in the late 1990s. Before then, porn was available in adult stores, through X-rated video rentals, and on some newsstands. But with the arrival of the Internet, porn availability exploded. It was just a click away 24-7 for free in tens of millions of homes and offices. In 1997, 16 percent of American adults used the Internet regularly. By 2005, the figure had quadrupled to 65 percent. The Internet has also made porn much more available to impressionable kids. How many kids, ages 10 to 17, have viewed Internet porn? According to a recent report in the journal Pediatrics, 42 percent.

If porn is a significant contributor to social harm, we would expect to see substantial increases in sexual irresponsibility, divorce, and rape since the late 1990s when the Internet suddenly made X-rated material much more available to those who might instigate sexual mayhem, overwhelmingly men.

Guess what. Since the arrival of Internet porn:

* Sexual irresponsibility has declined.
* Teen sex has declined.
* Divorce has declined.
* Rape has declined.

Why would social ills decline as porn becomes more widely available? No one knows. But the one thing porn really causes is masturbation. Internet porn keeps men at home one-handing it. As a result, they're not out in the world acting irresponsibly-or criminally.

I'm not arguing that porn is utterly harmless. Some men consume it so compulsively that it interferes with their lives. They need therapy. Some women become distraught when they discover that the men in their lives enjoy porn. They might benefit from couple therapy. And to the extent that porn is a sex educator, it teaches lovemaking all wrong. More about this in a future post.



http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/200904/does-pornography-cause-social-harm
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Psychology Today - Does Pornography Cause Social Harm? (Original Post) theKed Apr 2013 OP
Now that's taking matters libodem Apr 2013 #1
"Some women become distraught when they discover that the men in their lives enjoy porn." Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #2
And don't trivialize the "competition" some women may see... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #4
I've pondered that in other threads, actually (uh oh! "evo psych"!!!) that some of it may even be Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #5
I believe that also comes into play at times Bonobo Jul 2013 #9
this is probably offset by the ones who like everything about their relationship Doctor_J Jul 2013 #22
I'm not sure how it relates to the topic, but no doubt those people exist, too. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #24
Spikeboy95!!! opiate69 Jul 2013 #23
Love the comments. They range from... TreasonousBastard Apr 2013 #3
The Internet is certainly a useful tool for illuminating human nature in all its, um, "interesting" nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #12
Pornography is fiction. rrneck Apr 2013 #6
I had to fish all the way to bottom of the page to see this thread nolabels Jul 2013 #7
If you really want a hoot, Major Nikon Jul 2013 #8
lol. the penis of doom, cant believe nutjobs like this get any recognition at all loli phabay Jul 2013 #10
And the worst part is these people don't seem to realize how self-defeating (and self-destructive) nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #13
Penis of Doom Major Nikon Jul 2013 #20
Not wishing to divert a thread, but hear much the same argument Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #14
Cause and effect Major Nikon Jul 2013 #15
I've always wondered on how porno images affect the Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #19
lol. i love my outhouse, put a screen door on it so i can have a view while i poop. loli phabay Jul 2013 #11
Screen door? Fuck that .. I want a laser light show in mine! opiate69 Jul 2013 #16
lol mine is about two thousand feet up a mountain with a view to poop for. loli phabay Jul 2013 #18
hope you bring a good lantern with you at night. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #21
if it wasnt for porn and galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #17

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
2. "Some women become distraught when they discover that the men in their lives enjoy porn."
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:11 PM
Apr 2013

Which I think is the driving factor behind a lot of the 'angst' around it.

Important to any good relationship is clear and honest communication about expectations.

If, say, someone has drawn some line in the sand with their partner about naked pictures of women (or men) and then they keep discovering that the other person still looks at them, it's reasonable to figure that they may get bent out of shape, even to the point of endlessly ranting against it to strangers in incoherent non-sequiturs.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. And don't trivialize the "competition" some women may see...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:28 PM
Apr 2013

when feelings of jealousy and/or inadequacy can make for a lot of angst.

Some of the comments were about the loss of control women have over us when we can satisfy ourselves without them. I'm not convinced, but just that some guys are talking about it is interesting.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. I've pondered that in other threads, actually (uh oh! "evo psych"!!!) that some of it may even be
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:37 PM
Apr 2013

hard-wired primate behavior suited to small hunter-gatherer bands, involving maintaining a lower level of general female sexual availability and as such a high general "value" on sex. This would explain why, often, it is women who engage in terrible forms of "slut-shaming"... starting in Middle School.

Of course, these behaviors are ill-suited for a global, media rich environment and go absolutely bugfuck haywire with a 7 billion person planet full of millions of people who insist on taking their clothes off and showing their bodies to others, oblivious to demands that they acquiesce to the demands of their erstwhile controllers.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
9. I believe that also comes into play at times
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 01:04 AM
Jul 2013

when we see women who claim that feminism is the reason that they want strippers to be shamed into covering themselves.

Easy to don the mantle of self-righteousness but I suspect for some it is an issue of inadequacy.

Now that might hurt to hear and I can understand why it would sting some into retaliation. But that doesn't make it less true.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. I'm not sure how it relates to the topic, but no doubt those people exist, too.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jul 2013

I don't know. To me, a vibrant, enthusiastic and healthy sex life is an important part of an adult relationship, but for some folks I guess it's just not important.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Love the comments. They range from...
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:22 PM
Apr 2013

the author is a quack/fraud and should be hung by his thumbs to thank God for porn so we don't have to deal with women any more.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
12. The Internet is certainly a useful tool for illuminating human nature in all its, um, "interesting"
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

forms...

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
7. I had to fish all the way to bottom of the page to see this thread
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jul 2013

Needs a good kick to the top....

Btw there really is a lot of interesting comments after the article in the link. Next someone should do an article on the disappearance of out-houses and why the convenience of plumbing and the modern bathroom has resulted in a lot less people being mauled by bears (there would be some parallel comparisons there )

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
8. If you really want a hoot,
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:22 PM
Jul 2013

go listen to the Dworkin congressional testimony on the youtubes. She basically describes the proliferance of porn as the scurge of humanity with men getting all hyped up on porn like bath salts and then unleashing the penis of doom on women everywhere. Come to find out, the exact opposite happened. So much for the "theory".

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
10. lol. the penis of doom, cant believe nutjobs like this get any recognition at all
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 05:11 PM
Jul 2013

Sex in all its forms is healthy and fun, i see across a whole swathe of du remnants of the puritans. Who cares if i use porn or money changes hands for sex, or if i have multiple partners. Its nobodies business but mine.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
13. And the worst part is these people don't seem to realize how self-defeating (and self-destructive)
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jul 2013

their views ultimately are...

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
19. I've always wondered on how porno images affect the
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jul 2013

Slaughter in all those other countries. I rather suspect that in ours, a "porn" cause & effect model must be limited to "inner city" cultures since the violence is most concentrated there. But it is for the porn-centric social scientists to dance through that "mind field."

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