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Related: About this forumWhy Anti-Sex Work Feminism is Objectifying
Anti-prostitution radical feminists will argue that paying for the use of another persons body is objectification, and that using ones own sexuality in this way part of the same objectifying system*. I also regularly see the argument made by radfem women that sex-positive feminists (choosing the most polite and least aggressive possible out of the terms Ive seen used) are always saying that sex work is a job just like any other. Though Ive never actually heard the argument itself (only the dismissive and fed-up references to it from those who oppose the position), it brings home a point: if sex work, in and of itself, is not a job like any other in which an individual is being paid for her actions, then it has to be because somehow sexuality itself is different, especially for women. Unlike other actions, services, jobs, sex work reaches to the core of ones being to a point where one is no longer merely being paid a wage for a job. By engaging in this work, a woman is, in fact, selling her very self. The language we use to talk about sex work (and the metaphorical extensions of sex-work related words) emphasizes this point by charging a fee to have sex with someone, a woman has sold her body and herself. Linguistically speaking, theres a metonymy there the part (sexuality) has come to substitute for the whole woman.
Thats objectification, and its objectification in the narrow, limited, sex-specific sense of the word the definition of a womans self has been reduced to her sexuality, her value has become inextricably attached to her sex. On the other hand, its perfectly acceptable laudable, even for me to charge for the use of my brain, or for me to be valued for my intelligence. That wouldnt be considered being used, it wouldnt be thought of as selling myself. Paradoxically, thats like saying that my brain is less valuable, less connected to what I am as a person it can be partitioned off, the use of it essentially rented by my employers, and I can joyfully and proudly accept payment for it while I continue to use my brain outside of the workplace to also attract potentially desirable mates. Selling my brain doesnt take anything from me, doesnt make me less whole, doesnt make me damaged goods, and yet somehow, selling my body in a sexual manner (because, of course, if I were selling the use of my body for work in a factory, we again would not be having this conversation) would. If my sexuality is not the sum total of my humanity, if it is not even the primary source of my value, then this attitude towards sex work is nonsensical.
Sex work, as it exists in the world today, is not work like any other. It would be delusional to argue that it is. But nothing in the work itself makes it so what makes it different is misogyny, objectification and the reduction of women to mere sexuality. If were going to have a conversation about revolutionizing social attitudes towards women, womens bodies, sexuality and sex work (which we need to do if were going to get anywhere near the root causes of violence and the rates of violence faced by sex workers), we cant do it while were still equating sexuality with self. We cant do it while were objectifying.
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http://purtek.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/why-anti-sex-work-feminism-is-objectifying/
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)Empowerment and the like side step the issue.
For me it's always been a simple question: do I have the right to tell another adult what he/she may do with his/her body?
For the life of me I cannot come up with some justification that isn't based on superstition (ie save us all from the wrath of an angry anti sex god).
Major Nikon
(36,917 posts)Even if you believe in "objectification" as a valid concept, in order to establish it as something that's actually ethically wrong, you have to answer the question of whether or not it's ethically wrong to value someone based on their physical appearance vs their mental ability. Many feminists simply assume this is ethically wrong without ever providing a proof for that assumed assertion.
If there is no proof that placing value on someone for their physical appearance is ethically wrong, then most of the arguments against "objectification" don't really amount to much.