I'll just leave this here.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/19/robyn-urback-women-should-speak-first-in-classrooms-says-smu-prof-really-do-the-men-have-to-speak-at-all/

At a panel at Dalhousie University last Thursday, Prof. Haiven shared her method for elevating women’s voices in the classroom. It’s simple: let the ladies go first. Addressing the crowd at the “Forum on Misogyny,” which was formed in response to the ongoing saga over offensive Facebook posts published by a group of male dentistry students, Prof. Haiven explained how she uses this process in her own classroom.

“In the management department, women get to speak first,” she said, adding that “men should not be allowed to monopolize” classroom discussions and public events. Her six co-panelists generally agreed, including Jude Ashburn of the local gender and sexual resource centre, who told UNews after the panel that women of colour, specifically, should be ones to speak first in class.

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Isn't "ladies first" benevolent sexism?

[belzabubba333]

1. it's sexist and if any man had said the men speak 1st it would be platered all over du

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. MAKE the class leader address those who try to monopolize the discussion.

And allow speakers to take fair turns.

Makes more sense than adding to the image of "special privilege".

Why is it that non-male, non-white people have be "granted a privilege" in order to be treated equally to white males?

Time to re-define what a "privilege" is.

Hurrumph!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

3. I've never found that gender determines who monopolizes class discussion in college

Class discussion is usually monopolized by Type A personalities of both sexes. And there are shy men and women who are shut out and marginalized because of it. It is up to the professor to figure that out, but to just assume that one person of a certain gender is going to dominate ahead of time is bullshit.

[Veilex]

4. "to just assume that one person of a certain gender is going to dominate ahead of time is bullshit"

And yet, the assumption is repeatedly made... particularly by those who want to be heard, but lack the social force to make themselves heard over type A personalities.

By extension, the person who's unable to make themselves heard to their satisfaction ends up frequently demonizing the opposing gender in their own mind... often to be shared with other individuals at a later date.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

5. Some make it about the opposing gender

But I think most shy people just dislike Type A's over time, regardless of them being male or female.

Obviously, what we have here in the OP is someone who is not taking into account the shyness of men and women both, because they don't give a crap, but making it a gender thing. The idea that all women are stifled somehow and that all men are getting to talk first or talk at all.

[Major Nikon]

6. The assumption here is that it's the fault of the culture for women remaining silent

And since we all know our culture is completely controlled and dominated by men, it's really the same as saying it's men's fault women remain silent.

Never underestimate a person's ability to make something out of nothing. A feminist once accused Dr Seuss as being sexist because there were no strong female characters in his book. Dr Seuss replied via his biographer that most of his characters are animals and, "if she can identify their sex, I'll remember her in my will."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horton_Hatches_the_Egg#Analysis

[lumberjack_jeff]

7. "benevolent sexism" is indistinguishable from hostile sexism against men.

I think it says volumes about society that we can't call it that.

Striking a blow against sexism by insisting on ladies first? Can I be super-duper feminist and open the passenger car door for you?

Feminism has largely become the useful elements of the patriarchy.

[NaturalHigh]

8. Oh my goodness...

This is okay, but opening doors for women is sexist? Is this stuff written by Mad Magazine or the National Enquirer?