you know what we need, a fight club group where members of mg and hof can converse

[loli phabay]

It woukd be an extreme fight club that woukd need rules and strong moderating. It would be interesting to be actually able to discuss stuff directly rather than third party so to speak.

[Upton]

1. From what I can tell..

it's not really HoF versus the Men's Group..it's more like HoF versus the vast majority of the rest of DU..

[Major Nikon]

2. The fact that their are two feminist groups suggests an even narrower scope

Just sayin'

[opiate69]

3. Well, interestingly enough,

the vast majority of them are free to come in here and discuss things, instead of flinging poo from the safety of their keep. The various hosts we've had have done a great job of not abusing the ban-hammer.

[Major Nikon]

4. Anyone who is banned is free to petition any host to be unbanned

The reason they were banned in the first place is for shitting in the sandbox, not for ideological reasons.

[opiate69]

5. True, dat…

Like I said, all of you hosts have been more than fair.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

6. As I recall, all of the people banned here pretty much asked for it

Acting rude and obnoxious from post one.

[Major Nikon]

7. Intentional flame outs for the most part

It's not hard to figure out when they are bragging about it afterward.

[LadyHawkAZ]

8. How do we know there isn't one already

and they just don't talk about it?

[Agschmid]

12. That is the first rule of fight club...

just saying.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. There used to be one.

It was called "meta"

[RiffRandell]

10. Haha!

But in all fairness to the MG, there were quite a few discussions over words...like the "C" word...that thread was long, relentless and this group had nothing to do with it.

I felt so bad for Skinner...explaining over and over again and some people just couldn't move on and let it go.

Sound familiar?

ETA: I don't think the MG existed when that went down, but no members here were involved...a female "caused" the uproar...imagine that!

[Major Nikon]

11. Actually Skinner did say the purpose of meta was for people to work out their own issues

Evidently the idea was to take all the infighting and move it to a central location away from the rest of the site.

So there's a lot of truth to that although I don't really think much of it had to do with the MG as it was comparatively rare than anyone who regularly posts here ever initiated threads there. In the end it turned into the same people starting the same threads over and over again, and when it became counterproductive Skinner pulled the plug.

[Bonobo]

13. Statistics for both groups:

Men's Group:
Number of subscribers: 143
Number of people trashing: 35
Blocked members: 9

History of Feminism Group:
Number of subscribers: 135
Number of people trashing: 123
Blocked members: 38