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What Is Your Opinion Of JK Saying He's Leaving The Door Open In 2020? (Original Post) Corey_Baker08 Jan 2018 OP
It keeps people paying attention to what he says about things even if he's already decided to... PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #1
well he can't exit the scene if the door is closed nt msongs Jan 2018 #2
Don't bother elehhhhna Jan 2018 #3
I will... Mike Nelson Jan 2018 #4
I assume he is holding it open for a woman. delisen Jan 2018 #5
Democracy requires that the candidate you support win an election if you want your political beliefs Nitram Jan 2018 #8
So true-which is why we have to end the culture delisen Jan 2018 #9
When did he say that? karynnj Jan 2018 #6
Very well said. MBS Jan 2018 #11
Thanks karynnj Jan 2018 #12
You Seem To Be Incredby Knowledge of SOS Kerry....? Corey_Baker08 Jan 2018 #13
neither - just long term DU JK member karynnj Jan 2018 #14
No. Just no. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #7
Time to pass the torch to the next generation left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #15
I would love to have John Kerry as President. wisteria Mar 2018 #16
The defeated candidate in 1960, won in 1968. He may have been the worst criminal until Trump to... NNadir Jun 2018 #17

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. It keeps people paying attention to what he says about things even if he's already decided to...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

"close the door".

Mike Nelson

(10,264 posts)
4. I will...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jan 2018

...enthusiastically support the nominee! I don't predict him as a sure-fire primary winner, but I think JK would do better than some of the others I see mentioned - Biden, for example. I'll always remember how the Bush family smeared Kerry - they were disgusting.

delisen

(6,433 posts)
5. I assume he is holding it open for a woman.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jan 2018

I've had enough of men first -45 of them and look at us now.

It time foe the change we have been waiting. Democracy requires equality.

Nitram

(24,508 posts)
8. Democracy requires that the candidate you support win an election if you want your political beliefs
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jan 2018

to be carried out as policy.

delisen

(6,433 posts)
9. So true-which is why we have to end the culture
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jan 2018

of the Double Standard.

Hopefully you will work hard with women to achieve equalrepresetation in congress.

karynnj

(59,909 posts)
6. When did he say that?
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jan 2018

A quick google suggests he never did. In fact, the ONLY thinks brought up relate to comments by Morning Joe asking him - and Kerry saying he is not working on doing that. Joe proceeded to tease him that he didn't say "no". THAT led to a slew of articles suggesting he might be interested.

Kerry has run for President. If you look at the actual timeline - for ANY nominee, this would be the point where they would be at least speaking to backers, peers, etc There is no sign he is. Not to mention, he said in 2004, that he would not have run without Teresa's support -- which he had in both 2004 and again when he actively considered running in 2005/2006. Teresa has had had health problems and she is older than Kerry. I think he has very comfortably moved into the elder statesman role - proud of the many honors he has received.

Not to mention, he seems very engaged in what he is doing now. He clearly is enjoying working with students at Yale and having "Kerry Conversations" there with people he can get to come with ease. (Here's one that you might like to watch with Al Gore, who has similarly abandoned any idea of becoming President - https://news.yale.edu/2017/10/09/watch-livestream-vice-president-al-gore-kerry-conversation ) He also is doing a lot of work on climate change with companies - including a huge effort with Vietnam.)

Anyone who ever ran for President, especially one who wanted to be President for what he could do, would have a very tough time saying in a way that even people wanting a story would take as an unambiguous NO. However, I think he is proud of what he has done and looks happy with his life - even never winning the Presidency. Though obviously, if he could magically become President, he certainly would not say no, I seriously doubt he wants to put his family and his close friends through that again.

You might remember that in 2004, the NYT critiqued how he managed his campaign. I disagreed completely with them when they spoke of how he was more likely to ask PA governor Rendell his opinion of how a program he had some part of writing into law was working than about demographics and politics. Their opinion was this was a bad thing - my opinion was that it was a very good thing for a leader to ask. That and having staff do serious research on the true facts on the Medicare drug increase rather than just taking a potshot. They wrote that he then did not use those facts when he attacked -- as if that meant it was not a good idea to get them first. IMO, it means fewer times when you have to concede that you were wrong and you had a ready response if others asked the question that he asked staff to find the answers to.

To me, reading that years later, I realized that John Kerry - as talented politically as he was - is far more interested in issues and how government can help than in politics. From many talks and interviews I have seen, he is most engaged speaking about climate change or trying to make a more peaceful world -- or as a Senator how to get healthcare or how to create a small business program that helps people become more successful.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
13. You Seem To Be Incredby Knowledge of SOS Kerry....?
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jan 2018

LOL maybe ex campaign staff or relation to JK?

sorry wouldnt have asked if i had not met the MOVEON.ORG Founder on here using an alias fr lol

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wisteria

(19,581 posts)
16. I would love to have John Kerry as President.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:24 PM
Mar 2018

Should he consider it, or will 2020 be a good time? I didn’t know, everything I thought I knew about elections went out the door when Trump was elected. I am still in shock. So I say go for it, you never know.

NNadir

(34,560 posts)
17. The defeated candidate in 1960, won in 1968. He may have been the worst criminal until Trump to...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:52 PM
Jun 2018

...ever hold the office, but he did win.

I like John Kerry. I was enthusiastic for him in 2004 and would welcome him running in 2020 against Pence, since the orange cretin is likely to be in jail - where he belongs - then.

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