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Kerry SFRC Committee testimony on CSpan1 now... (Original Post) YvonneCa Sep 2014 OP
i didn't see the whole thing but a few clips JI7 Sep 2014 #1
JK and McCain share since years deep respect towards each others. mylye2222 Sep 2014 #2
I agree. they come off more like long time friends JI7 Sep 2014 #3
I think it looked like McCain was completely out of control and Kerry was karynnj Sep 2014 #4

JI7

(90,392 posts)
1. i didn't see the whole thing but a few clips
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:32 AM
Sep 2014

and it looked like he was trying hold back from laughing at mccain .

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
2. JK and McCain share since years deep respect towards each others.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:30 AM
Sep 2014

Anyway every time JK sits by him McCain tries to grill him and it always end sending humorfull yet harsh statements at each other. Sometimes its very funny . Sometimes. ..not so cause McCain goes too far into his playing the dumb neocon job.

JI7

(90,392 posts)
3. I agree. they come off more like long time friends
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 05:14 AM
Sep 2014

Joking with each other. And neither takes what the other says as personal offense.

karynnj

(59,909 posts)
4. I think it looked like McCain was completely out of control and Kerry was
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:46 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)

trying to err on the side of civility and conciseness in his response. In addition, as he said repeatedly, this wasn't the time to re-litigate everything on Iraq and Syria. This is an important time to look at where we are and devise the best way out. McCain was actually accepting that but was making a case that the US should simultaneously fight ISIS and Assad. However, Mccain was clearly livid and barely making himself coherent.

The point where this was most obvious was when McCain spoke of the danger that ISIS would be first and then nothing - and Kerry composed his face to look almost like an mature version of the choirboy he was and said that if they did not fight ISIS, there would be little of the 2nd prong left. Then after Menendez's rather annoying comment that essentially put them on the same plane, Kerry joked about a debate not entered. (Oddly the right wing was angry about that and reported it without the Menendez comment that led to it.)

What I have seen is that the various other Republicans have used their questions to look like they are talking truth to the administration. Clearly they are playing to the camera and there will be uses that do not include the Secretary's excellent responses. (This is not new or just Republicans - I think some Democrats - Grayson, for instance - did this constantly with Bush)It is also true that whenever Kerry said something could not be answered fully in an open session, it risked what I saw MSNBC (our side!) do, which is to say after playing parts of teh Republican question that Kerry failed to answer it.

As to Kerry, he looked like he was in his element. He was incredibly serious, thoughtful and personable in his responses. He seemed to try very hard to explain the overall strategy as clearly as he could - even though it is clear that details could not be explained and might not even exist.

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