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So many gun humpers here (Original Post) StayFrosty Jun 2016 OP
No clue.. that's rewinger shite. Cha Jun 2016 #1
look out you're gonna be called a gun grabber...ya know like obama nt msongs Jun 2016 #2
I've been surprised by the amount of gun clinging and islamophobia that I've... SaschaHM Jun 2016 #3
Well, the site puts out the welcome mat for them with the Gungeon. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #4
I am a 70+ woman who BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #6
Exactly. Anyone who craves an assault rifle is precisely the type of person who shouldn't have one. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #19
People who need an assault rifle are cowards or poor shots--or both. MADem Jun 2016 #5
Overcompensation. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #7
I wonder why thise gunners post here. lunamagica Jun 2016 #8
all I know is Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #9
You are so right, Coolest Ranger. nt brer cat Jun 2016 #10
Small penis---->big gun workinclasszero Jun 2016 #11
I always ask them Loki Jun 2016 #12
At least don't facilitate terrorists easy access to assault weapons. I have guns, come Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #13
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #15
Furthermore who in thinks they have a chance to win against our military? Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #16
Bernie Sanders has unlocked the doors to the Gungeon and set it's inhabitants free! Walk away Jun 2016 #14
You're right; you don't need an assault rifle to defend your home. Aristus Jun 2016 #17
It depends on the wording realmirage Jun 2016 #18
+1 BootinUp Jun 2016 #20
The defensive gun groupies will not let anyone who wants to talk common sense get a word in liberal N proud Jun 2016 #22
The NRA is like that, are you saying people do that here? realmirage Jun 2016 #23
It happens here all the time liberal N proud Jun 2016 #24
Yesterday in GDP I saw a Bernie poster seriously propose that "confiscation of personal firearms" Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #21

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
3. I've been surprised by the amount of gun clinging and islamophobia that I've...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:16 AM
Jun 2016

witnessed here in the last few days. I mean, I guess we are a big tent party, but some of this stuff has been straight out of the Trump/NRA/GOP playbook.

SunSeeker

(53,160 posts)
4. Well, the site puts out the welcome mat for them with the Gungeon.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jun 2016

Instead of banning them as trolls, this site offers up a special protected group for them, "Gun Control/RKBA" aka the "Gungeon" (not to be confused with the Gun Control Activism group which is for DUers who actually advocate for progressive gun control). No progressive should be a RKBA ("Right to Keep and Bear Arms&quot advocate, since that is a "right" invented by Scalia in the Heller decision.


And I agree, you don't need an assault weapon to defend your home. In fact, your home is more dangerous with one in it.







BlueMTexpat

(15,472 posts)
6. I am a 70+ woman who
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:51 AM
Jun 2016

has traveled widely throughout the world, on occasion by myself, and who has no fear of living or being alone.

I have never - ever - felt the need to have a gun of any kind for protection and I have lived in both urban and rural areas. Unless I were prepared to practice shooting it at a target range on a regular basis, a gun would certainly be of no practical use to me, and would likely pose more of a danger in the sense that any determined individual would likely wrest it away from me and use it against me. Besides, one must keep a gun locked up so that children and others cannot get to it. By the time you unlock it to confront a home invader, it's likely too late. It's more a nuisance than anything else.

At one time, I did carry pepper spray after one instance where I was subjected to a half-hearted but still traumatizing assault. But that lasted only for a couple years, especially after I realized that taking self-defense classes, paying very careful attention to my surroundings, and carrying my keys clenched between my fingers in my fist would give me as much of an advantage as pepper spray would. Besides, none of the others were illegal and I can always carry keys through airline security.

Those who feel insecure in their homes are better off getting a dog (even a cat - I once had a Manx cat who could face down Dobermans and German shepherds - she was very protective of her turf) and keeping a can of pepper (yes, the spice) in their nightstand.

In the final analysis, however, individuals know their own needs, fears, and strengths. I have no problem at all with responsible gun owners. In fact, I have several in my own family. But not one owns - or feels the need to own - an assault rifle. Their reaction to nutcases who feel the need to own them is that assault rifles are for wusses who can't shoot for sh**, so they hedge their bets by getting guns that will spray bullets everywhere.

SunSeeker

(53,160 posts)
19. Exactly. Anyone who craves an assault rifle is precisely the type of person who shouldn't have one.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jun 2016

Thank you for your thoughtful post.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
9. all I know is
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:48 AM
Jun 2016

I will not engage any gun hugger. I have found that you can't reason with them. You can't talk to them. It's all, gun, gun, gun. You touch my gun its on. That tells me my life is not as important as their gun

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. Small penis---->big gun
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 07:42 AM
Jun 2016

A person that owns or wants to own a military style assault weapon is planning on killing a large number of people sometime IMO. That's what the weapon is designed to do.

They were not made for deer hunting or any other kind of animal hunting. They are designed and made for the hunting and killing of large amounts of human beings.

AR-15 is the favorite weapon of mass killers for a reason.

Loki

(3,826 posts)
12. I always ask them
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:05 AM
Jun 2016

When did the definition of regulations morph into confiscation? They have no answer. They fail to recognize that the shooter's element of surprise will always eliminate their ability to react.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. At least don't facilitate terrorists easy access to assault weapons. I have guns, come
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:24 AM
Jun 2016

From a family of game hunters, they do not hunt with rapid fire weapons, they pride themselves with one shot kills.

DemonGoddess

(4,865 posts)
15. ^^^This!!!
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jun 2016

I haven't owned a gun for years, because when my children were small, I had no SAFE place to store them. When I did have guns, they were rifles.

Assault weapons do not belong in the hands of civilians, EVER. I have people in my family that are currently law enforcement, some are retired. Many veterans as well. You know what? NONE of them own this kind of weapon. They've all said the same thing we've all said, which is that the purpose of this kind of weapon is to kill people.

Something ELSE which really gets to me with this, is the lack of respect for firearms in general that I see from people we'd call "gun nuts". I was raised to have a healthy respect for them, BECAUSE of the kind of damage they cause when used against a target. In my case, it was learning how to hunt. Why is this important? IF, when hunting, you want to use all parts of the animal, INCLUDING the pelt, you have to mindful of the caliber you're using, the size of the game, and what kind of ammunition you're going to use.

I cannot for the LIFE of me understand this attitude of what I see that guns are big boy toys. I don't get it, nor do I WANT to.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. Furthermore who in thinks they have a chance to win against our military?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:47 AM
Jun 2016

We have seen how 'fightin' against the gubermint" ends.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
14. Bernie Sanders has unlocked the doors to the Gungeon and set it's inhabitants free!
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:24 AM
Jun 2016

They finally have a "Democratic" candidate they can support so...might as well crow about it!

Aristus

(67,645 posts)
17. You're right; you don't need an assault rifle to defend your home.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jun 2016

You need an assault rifle in order to look cool while posing in front of your mirror, or while posing for Christmas card pics that you send to your redneck family members.

Other than that? Nope. No reason.

 

realmirage

(2,117 posts)
18. It depends on the wording
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jun 2016

I don't like blanket anti-gun statements. Most people who are defensive in gun debates are that way because the conversation usually starts out with someone just saying guns are bad, instead of talking about background checks or something reasonable like that. Common sense gun regulation is good. Most gun owners are ok with that issue. But the hysterical "guns are bad" approach is what starts arguments.

liberal N proud

(60,797 posts)
22. The defensive gun groupies will not let anyone who wants to talk common sense get a word in
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jun 2016

with out calling them a gun grabber.

I don't advocate taking anyone's guns away but some sort of control on who can get them in the first place needs to be in place. But I get labeled a gun grabber or otherwise anytime I try and get my point across.

Anyone who does not hug a gun, is grouped into the anti-gun group.

Maru Kitteh

(28,725 posts)
21. Yesterday in GDP I saw a Bernie poster seriously propose that "confiscation of personal firearms"
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jun 2016

was proposed by, I assume Hillary.



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