Hillary Clinton
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Super Delegates would have prevented Trump from taking over the Republican Party such as he has.
The Berners and Sanders himself want to eliminate the Super Delegates for future Democratic Primaries. I hope that Trump serves as an example of exactly why that would be a disastrous idea.
Keep the Super Delegates! PLEASE, for the sake of the Party and the United States of America.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)but BS and his supporters don't seem to understand that or maybe they don't care!?
BS is asking for things that makes it seem the Democratic System in place was rigged and he really should be the nominee. It's all about him. He doesn't seem to take the time to try to figure out why he did not capture more of the POC vote, older voters and Democrats. Not it wasn't him, it was us.
liberal N proud
(60,936 posts)It's all about them. They emulate BS in that regard.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Koinos
(2,798 posts)They could have stopped Trump and installed whomever else. Instead, they are stick with a nominee from hell.
Cha
(305,137 posts)why're they so smart?!"..
Experience.. we learn from our mistakes.
BlueMTexpat
(15,493 posts)have helped is for Republicans to get rid of winner-take-all primaries. There were some primaries where GOP challengers were actually quite close to Trump, but they received NO delegates whatsoever because those primaries were winner-take-all.
IMO, both parties should create similar primary systems:
- ALL caucuses should be eliminated and replaced with primaries
- ALL primaries should be closed (primaries are where the members of the party - not outsiders - choose their candidate)
- ALL primaries should have delegates awarded to candidates in proportion to the votes they receive
As for SDs, they are a double-stopgap safety measure in the case where proportional allocation of pledged delegates may lead to a ridiculous outcome. But if the first three steps are instituted as above, SDs could be considered superfluous.
Of course, if SDs are eliminated altogether, then the magic number for winning any nomination should = 51% of the pledged delegates from the primary outcome, never what some have advocated for in this election: that the 2016 magic number of 2,383 for the Dems should consist of pledged delegates alone.
Math does not seem to be a strong point for any of Hillary's adversaries.
DemonGoddess
(5,108 posts)Since the Democratic Party is calling for OPEN suggestions for the platform, I hope you submitted this. Maybe put a document together that says exactly this, and have a bunch of us sign it with you?
BlueMTexpat
(15,493 posts)already received hundreds - if not thousands - of suggestions exactly like these, LOL!
I have actually discussed these proposals with MD Dem party members with whom I worked on Hillary's campaign while in the US from Feb-April and they have all been in agreement one hundred percent! I know that the MD Dem state and county chairs will all be working with the DNC.
But MD is one state where the voting system is not only easily understood, it works very well. Some states among the 49 others need more convincing and transparency. Ultimately, the DNC has to work with ALL of them, which is another thing that Bernie doesn't understand, having never been a Dem until 2015.
DemonGoddess
(5,108 posts)to the DNC and my state party expressing my preferences, and then sent another stating the same in May.
BlueMTexpat
(15,493 posts)right now, I think that these ideas are included in the collective consciousness of the Dem Party.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)They KNOW they can't build a coalition through their usual tactics of berating and insulting anyone who is not already a True Believer like they are. That's why they're trying to hijack our existing coalition, because it's strong and gets results. The Purity Party? They've got zero to show for decades of posturing and complaining.
Good riddance!
Cha
(305,137 posts)insulting the **** out of it.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)And they don't know how to apologize, so they're stuck there until they learn.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)The democrats are responsible for selecting their candidate for the GE. It's a way to prevent a candidate from becoming the nominee who got a bunch of bad press after enough of the primaries have been held to secure the nomination.
I think it's a good system.
Cha
(305,137 posts)loved ones of the Orlando victims and then shut the hell up.. but, of course, that didn't happen.
They are struck with a ticking time bomb that has already gone off several times.. the worst is yet to come.
You don't think they would like to have better control over that situation instead of leaving it to the raging racist teabagger primary voters.
Thank you.
& too bad what BS wants.. he lost.. and not just lost but a poor loser.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)After seeing the GOP struggling this would make another reason to keep the super delegates. I would like to see the caucuses go away, it is a form of voter suppression and to close the primaries to registered Democrats after all it is a DNC primaries.
teamster633
(2,032 posts)...Bernie's push to eliminate super delegates might have gained a lot more traction without tRump as a counterpoint. In the vacuum of a typical campaign, the proposition might have sounded pretty good, like so many "ideals"...good in theory...not so good in practice.
DemonGoddess
(5,108 posts)All we need to do is point to Trump as to why to KEEP the SDs. He is also a good thing to point to, as to why we need to have CLOSED contests, period.
murielm99
(31,416 posts)Now I don't have to say it! +1,000!