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Hillary passes 2.4 million votes in California! Goes down to 55.%~ 11 points diff (HRC GP) (Original Post) Her Sister Jun 2016 OP
Thanks! apcalc Jun 2016 #1
Haven't heard if they're done. Probably still counting!? Her Sister Jun 2016 #4
So that's it? The final tally.. and it's over? It's 12.4% instead of 13%? Cha Jun 2016 #2
Not sure if it's over but I get the feeling: Her Sister Jun 2016 #6
Its not, but you assessment is also correct, it most likely won't change anything. Of the remaining still_one Jun 2016 #8
They said "100%" of the vote in.. but, I guess that doesn't necessarily mean Cha Jun 2016 #9
at the top of the page from her sister's link it says 100.0% (22,356 of 22356) precincts partially still_one Jun 2016 #11
Wow! I hope so.. thank you, stillone.. that's a lot of votes not counted yet. Cha Jun 2016 #13
Vote-by-mail ballots that are mailed MUST be postmarked on or before election day, and received by still_one Jun 2016 #18
Right.. I just want her to hold her double digit lead down in California. Cha Jun 2016 #19
I know. still_one Jun 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Jun 2016 #17
This particular revolution's history with math points to the need for more education funding LannyDeVaney Jun 2016 #3
About 2/3 of the ballots that haven't been counted are vote-by-mail ballots, Alex Padilla reported. still_one Jun 2016 #5
Thanks Her Sister still_one Jun 2016 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #10
When vote by mail ballots are counted, Hillary will maintain her lead. The AP knew this. That's... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #25
Thanks for the link, HS! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #12
AP doesn't call elections on a whimsy...they have their own internals. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #14
They said the count could take as much as about two weeks. George II Jun 2016 #15
The final vote numbers will change. Of the remaining ballots that need to be counted, still_one Jun 2016 #20
Another 50 million votes or so and Bernie should have it locked up. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #16
yep an order of 50 million votes a la unicorn coming!!! Her Sister Jun 2016 #23
When AP called it, at 7AM on Wednesday morning.. Princess Turandot Jun 2016 #22
Wow! Almost 500,000 more votes than Bernie so far. book_worm Jun 2016 #24
What's going on with California's count? Her Sister Jun 2016 #26
California Votes status: Her Sister Jun 2016 #27
They are still not done counting. Koinos Jun 2016 #28
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
4. Haven't heard if they're done. Probably still counting!?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jun 2016

But that link shows the numbers as they change.

Cha

(305,137 posts)
2. So that's it? The final tally.. and it's over? It's 12.4% instead of 13%?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jun 2016

That's what all the hubbub was about? Why BS kept saying the final tally isn't in yet in California?

Mahalo, HS~

still_one

(96,436 posts)
8. Its not, but you assessment is also correct, it most likely won't change anything. Of the remaining
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

ballots that need to be counted, about 2/3 of those are vote-by mail ballots. This was reported by Alex Padilla. Vote by mail favors Hillary. The second paragraph is the link below contains the Alex Padilla assessment"

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-primary-20160607-htmlstory.html



Cha

(305,137 posts)
9. They said "100%" of the vote in.. but, I guess that doesn't necessarily mean
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jun 2016

it's all counted.

The suspense continues... Thanks

still_one

(96,436 posts)
11. at the top of the page from her sister's link it says 100.0% (22,356 of 22356) precincts partially
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jun 2016

reported as of June 10, 2016, 6:43 p.m.

That is somewhat confusing.

Of the remaining ballots that need to be counted, about 2/3 of those are vote-by mail ballots. This was reported by Alex Padilla.

Vote by mail favors Hillary. The link below contains the Alex Padilla assessment:

"On Friday afternoon, Secretary of State Alex Padilla reported that there were 2,423,607 uncounted ballots statewide . About two-thirds of those are vote-by-mail ballots, with three Southern California counties leading the way: Los Angeles, San Diego and Orange.

Reports from a number of the state's 58 counties haven't changed for a few days, so expect the figures to shift pretty noticeably by early next week.

And one other part of the process: This is the first year in which ballots that arrive up to three days late -- Friday would be the deadline -- can be counted. So the number of ballots on hand could also change."

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-primary-20160607-htmlstory.html

I personally believe that Hillary could expand her lead with the remaining vote by mail ballots to be counted



still_one

(96,436 posts)
18. Vote-by-mail ballots that are mailed MUST be postmarked on or before election day, and received by
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jun 2016

the county elections office no later than 3 days after Election Day in order to be counted.

So any vote by mail ballot that does not meet that criteria, will not be counted.

The primary is over. Hillary is the nominee, regardless. It won't change anything


Response to Cha (Reply #9)

still_one

(96,436 posts)
5. About 2/3 of the ballots that haven't been counted are vote-by-mail ballots, Alex Padilla reported.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:11 AM
Jun 2016

Polling prior to the election indicated that those voting by mail favored Hillary.

The vote by mail ballots will be counted if they arrive up to three days after the election. This was all made very clear in the voter pamphlet that was sent out to every registered voter

All other ballots received by 8 P.M on election day WILL BE COUNTED, and provisional ballots are always counted in California elections no matter what the margins.

"Will the unofficial election results change after election night? When will all of the election results be final?
Yes, election results will change throughout the canvass period as vote-by-mail ballots, provisional ballots, and other ballots are processed. Depending on the volume of these types of ballots, it may take up to 30 days (28 days for presidential delegates and 30 days for all other contests) for county elections officials to verify voter records and determine if ballots have been cast by eligible voters. The frequency of updated results will vary based on the size of each county and the process each local elections office uses to tally and report votes.

County elections officials must report their final results to the Secretary of State for presidential delegates by July 5, 2016, and all other offices by July 8, 2016. The Secretary of State will compile the results of the election of presidential delegates by July 9, 2016, and will certify the results of all other offices by July 15, 2016."

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/frequently-asked-questions/#faq-reporting




Response to Her Sister (Original post)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)
25. When vote by mail ballots are counted, Hillary will maintain her lead. The AP knew this. That's...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

why it was called when it was. There weren't enough valid votes left to diminish her double digit win.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
14. AP doesn't call elections on a whimsy...they have their own internals.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton lead holds...BIG SURPRISE. NOT!

still_one

(96,436 posts)
20. The final vote numbers will change. Of the remaining ballots that need to be counted,
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jun 2016

2/3 of those are vote by mail. The Clinton campaign in California had an extra push encouraging vote by mail, which was reflected in the vote by mail votes that have been counted.

For the later vote-by-mail we will see if it follows that same pattern. As long as the ballot is post-marked by election day, June 7, 2016, and received in the county office within three days after the election, it will be counted.

These rules were made very clear before the election.

Also, those who have been spewing lies that provisional ballots are not counted, are wrong. All ballots, including provisional ballots are counted in California, no matter what the margin

There is no reason to believe Hillary won't win California. Regardless, she will have won the most pledged delegates, and votes this primary season.

The primaries are over



Princess Turandot

(4,823 posts)
22. When AP called it, at 7AM on Wednesday morning..
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

The tally was:
Hillary Clinton 1,837,343
Bernie Sanders 1,412,519
Hillary's margin: +424,824

(I had posted those numbers here, which is the only reason that I have them: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107161408#post26)

As of yesterday (6/10) evening, the numbers were:
Hillary Clinton 2,128,194
Bernie Sanders 1,653,416
Hillary's margin +474,778
(Source: California SOS a/o 6/10 6:43 p.m. The numbers at the link, obviously, will continue to change.)

Regarding the 'uncounted votes', here's the PDF with the numbers as of 'yesterday'. However, this list is somewhat misleading. Most of the 'latest' county dates on the list as of now are from 6/7 and 6/8, even though many counties have continued to submit additional verified votes to the SOS thru 6/10. So it appears that it isn't being updated by the counties at the same time as the vote count itself is.

Be that as it may, the pace of their vote counting is kind of ridiculous. I don't know how the reviews that they do of the mail ballots compare to Oregon's, which doesn't seem to have this problem. Perhaps they're just woefully understaffed.

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
28. They are still not done counting.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:07 AM
Jun 2016

Is this same sort of thing going to happen in the general election? Thirty days to count the vote?

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