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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:59 PM Jun 2016

Is Elizabeth Warren a red herring? Is she being an obvious distraction ...

... so that other meetings and other discussions regarding the VP selection process can take place without being so easily noticed?

Is Warren running interference so that all eyes are on her, while the real action happens elsewhere?


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Is Elizabeth Warren a red herring? Is she being an obvious distraction ... (Original Post) NurseJackie Jun 2016 OP
Not a bad theory. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #1
Or maybe it's just the new leader meeting up with an important team member to seal a deal! Walk away Jun 2016 #2
And/or to discuss strategy, timing, etc. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #3
Very plausible. Gman Jun 2016 #4
There are MANY good candidates for the VP slot. Not an easy decision for Hill. stopbush Jun 2016 #5
She has said a lot of things Trump needed to hear, he has been a bully for a while Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #6
I hope so. Control-Z Jun 2016 #7
Agreed, too many males Ellen Forradalom Jun 2016 #9
She does need someone who has.... northoftheborder Jun 2016 #8
I am sure she is way ahead of us on this Ellen Forradalom Jun 2016 #10
I think Castro is too young and inexperienced. Koinos Jun 2016 #15
I think she needs a white man for VP splat Jun 2016 #11
Maybe. I've been thinking. VPs can be swapped out for 2nd terms so an up and comer could be... Rose Siding Jun 2016 #12
We're thinking along the same lines -- I like Franken too splat Jun 2016 #13
I'd love to see Joe Biden as VP, again. dmr Jun 2016 #14
They certainly were a good team, weren't they? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #16
Amen. Plus, to quote Joe dmr Jun 2016 #17
... in numbers too big to ignore. And we know too much to go back and pretend! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #18
Some thoughts nygurl Jun 2016 #19
It will be a very delicately balanced and choreographed ballet ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #20

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
2. Or maybe it's just the new leader meeting up with an important team member to seal a deal!
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jun 2016

Somethings need to be said and done in person.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
3. And/or to discuss strategy, timing, etc.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jun 2016

This is pretty obviously a well-coordinated effort on the Dem side, so it could also be a strategy session.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
4. Very plausible.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jun 2016

A story early in the week said Reed was lobbying for her. Just as likely Warren may be seriously considered.

Edit for stupid grammar

stopbush

(24,630 posts)
5. There are MANY good candidates for the VP slot. Not an easy decision for Hill.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jun 2016

Anyone she is talking to about the slot needs to know one thing: they WILL be the next VP.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. She has said a lot of things Trump needed to hear, he has been a bully for a while
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jun 2016

And it is time he hears just how bad the bully sounds. She did a number on him.

Control-Z

(15,684 posts)
7. I hope so.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jun 2016

I get a bad feeling about a Clinton/Warren ticket. And it's not Warren or Clinton. I guess I'm thinking we need a male, preferably minority - to reign in the left wing MRAs and other Bros as well as additional minority support.

northoftheborder

(7,606 posts)
8. She does need someone who has....
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

the ability to be an attack dog for her, someone qualified with experience in elected office, a minority, leaning liberal, relatively young, someone who is diplomatic, and is someone Hillary trusts, respects, and likes. Don't know if there is one person who can do all that.

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
15. I think Castro is too young and inexperienced.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 05:17 AM
Jun 2016

I don't see him as presidential, and I don't see him as an effective "attack dog" against Trump. Paul Ryan didn't know what hit him, when he debated Biden. Even if Hillary doesn't choose Elizabeth Warren, she needs someone with the intelligence and "fight" of Elizabeth Warren. That could be hard to find.

splat

(2,322 posts)
11. I think she needs a white man for VP
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jun 2016

It's the white men who need to be able to choose between Trump/(Gingrich?) and Hillary/George Clooney. That would muddle their brains! They'd easily reject a women/minority ticket as "not us."

She has the minority vote already, and women.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
12. Maybe. I've been thinking. VPs can be swapped out for 2nd terms so an up and comer could be...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

groomed to be the next pres. If she thought it's really important, I'm liking Al Franken. He could match the Trump circus and he was the first Senator to endorse her. I doubt he has high ambitions, so the 2nd term could be more demographically/geographically strategic.

I've even wondered about Biden, They are very close but maybe that would be too weird?

Castro would be smart but he's so green (young/untried) Maybe in 2020. Cory Booker's awesome but probably only someone a liberal could love. Camilla Harris in CA is good, too.

splat

(2,322 posts)
13. We're thinking along the same lines -- I like Franken too
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jun 2016

...if I can't have George Clooney (everybody I mention him to says, "I'd vote for him!&quot .

I had never heard of Castro till recently. I've wondered about Biden, too -- he's widely admired and could criticize Trump with gravitas.

dmr

(28,641 posts)
14. I'd love to see Joe Biden as VP, again.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:48 AM
Jun 2016

I had to write that.

I just love Joe. That smile. Those blue eyes. His gift of gab, and full of malarky.

He and President Obama have made a good, trusting team, & forged a lifetime friendship.

It would be nice for Hillary to have the same. I hope she chooses well.

I have a feeling she'll choose Tim Kaine.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. They certainly were a good team, weren't they?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 05:43 AM
Jun 2016

I've seen some people here make the statement that Joe Biden's role was nearly ceremonial, and meaningless. But anybody who knows anything about Joe also knows that he was the point man on a lot of Obama's foreign policy meetings, and domestic policy initiatives with Congress. They worked together closely, and it shows.

It's unclear to me what the motive is of anyone who wants to denigrate and marginalize his role in this administration's successes. But it was certainly and demonstrably more than one that was merely "ceremonial". Obviously, anyone who says such things is just being an asshole.

dmr

(28,641 posts)
17. Amen. Plus, to quote Joe
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

"It's a fucking big deal!"

I would love to hang out with them. They are kind, & intelligent men. How I'd love to listen & ask questions of them both.

One more thing, as horrible as the Republicans in and out of Congress, our President remained strong & graceful. I believe Joe was instrumental in helping to ease some of those pressures as a friend & as a mediator between the two.

How I wish things could've been different and Joe could've run for POTUS. His speech the other night was awesome.

But, then again, I'm happy that Hillary is our nominee. She kicked ass before Planned Parenthood yesterday. I believe in every word she said.

And, then Elizabeth Warren! She is a treasure. An absolute treasure.

Sorry, I'm rambling.

I am woman, hear me roar.

nygurl

(33 posts)
19. Some thoughts
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jun 2016

You can be sure VP has already been picked, nothing haphazard about anything Hill does. VP slot is a big deal announcement. We lose all of that excitement and media time if it's Warren, who already peaked last week. Also, Warren can continue to get air play bombing Trump without being VP. Her endorsement and visibility already accomplished at least some of the uniting already, and will continue to do so.

If it's not going to be Warren, the decision should come from Warren. It will piss off a whole lot of people if it appears Hillary used Warren and then passed her by.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. It will be a very delicately balanced and choreographed ballet ...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jun 2016

... for the maximum positive impact, generating the most enthusiasm, instilling confidence, showing wisdom and competence, dodging or minimizing the critics and assorted cheap-shots that will surely be hurled in their direction.

I have every confidence in her already. I'm eager to know who it will be.

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