Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumSo Hillary has won the majority of pledged delegates, correct?
Thus, if there were no SDs, she wins. If you allot SDs by states, she wins. If you count SDs, she wins.
She wins in every combination. Do I have that right?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)stopbush
(24,630 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)I've seen a lot of decent Bernie Supporters this week.
It would be nice if Sanders himself changed tune, but I don't think it's fair to lump all the Bernie Supporters together.
PJMcK
(22,886 posts)It seems likely that the loudest, ugliest voices have been a very small subset on both sides of the Democratic primary. Most supporters of either Senator Sanders or Secretary Clinton have behaved like adults.
NYC Liberal
(20,347 posts)question everything
(48,799 posts)that, yes, she should "pivot" to the center. The same center that got us presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
Sanders is not a Democrat and his supporters are not Democrats. This is why he won, mostly in open primaries and caucuses and he wanted to sue the party when faced with closed primaries.
The party has a right to determine its rules, including who can and cannot vote to elect the candidates.
There were speculations yesterday that the Republicans are going to change their rules that all the primaries be closed but the Democrats may go the opposite directions.
If this is so, we can kiss good bye to any chances of an electing presidents after Hillary. The infiltrators would cause any candidate to lose the elections.
Independents can vote in the general elections.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)SunSeeker
(53,656 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)No matter how many times people tried to explain that that pertained to the general election, they just didn't want to hear it. Primaries are for political parties to choose their candidates.
skylucy
(3,854 posts)I, too, do not think Dems/Hillary should allow Bernie to move the party platform to the far far left when Hillary should be pivoting more to the center left for the General Election. The funny thing is, I am actually very far left in my political views. But I also understand that there are many voters who disagree with me. The way the Republicans dealt with the Far Right Tea Party should be a lesson to the Dems.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)She is the presumptive nominee! We got our nominee!
George II
(67,782 posts)Stuckinthebush
(11,025 posts)My sweet naïve friend. You forgot to use Bernie math and subtract the number of happy birds from Hillary's pledged total. Then divide by purple.
Jeez....math class shouldn't be this difficult!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,443 posts)Yavin4
(36,375 posts)Stuckinthebush
(11,025 posts)Common core is Obama third way math. Corporatist math used by billionaires and millionaires only.
Beacool
(30,322 posts)Although not all delegates have been allocated yet and DC hasn't voted, as per RCP, Hillary is just 179 pledged delegates short of hitting the 2382 mark.
George II
(67,782 posts)Beacool
(30,322 posts)Obviously she's the presumptive nominee, but she also came close to not even needing the super delegates to cross the finish line. She came closer than Obama did in 2008.