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So Hillary has won the majority of pledged delegates, correct? (Original Post) Yavin4 Jun 2016 OP
Bernie people want to drag it out until the convention in case she gets indicted Gomez163 Jun 2016 #1
Their cynicism is deplorable. stopbush Jun 2016 #3
I think only a few do. metroins Jun 2016 #4
You're right PJMcK Jun 2016 #7
Yep. NYC Liberal Jun 2016 #2
I really hope that the party will not cave to his demand question everything Jun 2016 #5
KNR! Well analyzed and well written, qe! eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #6
Correct. The infiltrators will ratfuck our GE chances. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #8
What irked me to no end was their "one person, one vote" argument. displacedtexan Jun 2016 #10
I totally agree with you. I absolutely do NOT think primaries should be "open"...and skylucy Jun 2016 #20
Yes yes she got all the metrics and basis covered! Her Sister Jun 2016 #9
No, there's one other option - if ALL the superdelegates vote for Sanders, he ekes out the win. George II Jun 2016 #11
Silly, silly Yavin! Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #12
Okay, that made me snort out loud. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #14
Is that common core math? n/t Yavin4 Jun 2016 #18
No way Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #19
She came very close to winning without the need for super delegates. Beacool Jun 2016 #13
Trust me, she's over 2383 and the nominee. Sanders would need to flip about 400 superdelegates. George II Jun 2016 #15
That's not my point. Beacool Jun 2016 #16
I know, it would have been nice to get a hundred or so more pledged delegates to remove all doubt. George II Jun 2016 #17

metroins

(2,550 posts)
4. I think only a few do.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jun 2016

I've seen a lot of decent Bernie Supporters this week.

It would be nice if Sanders himself changed tune, but I don't think it's fair to lump all the Bernie Supporters together.

PJMcK

(22,886 posts)
7. You're right
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jun 2016

It seems likely that the loudest, ugliest voices have been a very small subset on both sides of the Democratic primary. Most supporters of either Senator Sanders or Secretary Clinton have behaved like adults.

question everything

(48,799 posts)
5. I really hope that the party will not cave to his demand
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jun 2016

that, yes, she should "pivot" to the center. The same center that got us presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

Sanders is not a Democrat and his supporters are not Democrats. This is why he won, mostly in open primaries and caucuses and he wanted to sue the party when faced with closed primaries.

The party has a right to determine its rules, including who can and cannot vote to elect the candidates.

There were speculations yesterday that the Republicans are going to change their rules that all the primaries be closed but the Democrats may go the opposite directions.

If this is so, we can kiss good bye to any chances of an electing presidents after Hillary. The infiltrators would cause any candidate to lose the elections.

Independents can vote in the general elections.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
10. What irked me to no end was their "one person, one vote" argument.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

No matter how many times people tried to explain that that pertained to the general election, they just didn't want to hear it. Primaries are for political parties to choose their candidates.

skylucy

(3,854 posts)
20. I totally agree with you. I absolutely do NOT think primaries should be "open"...and
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:27 PM
Jun 2016

I, too, do not think Dems/Hillary should allow Bernie to move the party platform to the far far left when Hillary should be pivoting more to the center left for the General Election. The funny thing is, I am actually very far left in my political views. But I also understand that there are many voters who disagree with me. The way the Republicans dealt with the Far Right Tea Party should be a lesson to the Dems.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
9. Yes yes she got all the metrics and basis covered!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

She is the presumptive nominee! We got our nominee!

Stuckinthebush

(11,025 posts)
12. Silly, silly Yavin!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jun 2016

My sweet naïve friend. You forgot to use Bernie math and subtract the number of happy birds from Hillary's pledged total. Then divide by purple.

Jeez....math class shouldn't be this difficult!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)
14. Okay, that made me snort out loud.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jun 2016
"You forgot to use Bernie math and subtract the number of happy birds from Hillary's pledged total. Then divide by purple."



Stuckinthebush

(11,025 posts)
19. No way
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jun 2016

Common core is Obama third way math. Corporatist math used by billionaires and millionaires only.

Beacool

(30,322 posts)
13. She came very close to winning without the need for super delegates.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

Although not all delegates have been allocated yet and DC hasn't voted, as per RCP, Hillary is just 179 pledged delegates short of hitting the 2382 mark.

Beacool

(30,322 posts)
16. That's not my point.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jun 2016

Obviously she's the presumptive nominee, but she also came close to not even needing the super delegates to cross the finish line. She came closer than Obama did in 2008.

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