I was against posting negative stuff about Sanders tonight. But after his speech, the way he

[lunamagica]

remained quiet when his crowd booing Hillary, well, forget it.

He refuses to concede, so the fight is still on!

[William769]

1. Agreed.

[UMTerp01]

2. Don't. Its not worth it.

Hillary will be the nominee. Everyone needs to just keep their cool and let this play out. Sanders does deserve some time to concede.

[sheshe2]

5. Hillary IS the nominee!

And no amount of spin will change that.

[UMTerp01]

7. Yes. She is. Presumptive nominee...tomato tom"ah"to. I get your point nt

[Walk away]

3. What a horrible man. nt

[Haveadream]

4. I'm completely disgusted

This serves nothing but his ego at the expense of everyone else.

[LenaBaby61]

6. Well, this is not his party....

Hillary is the leader of the party...

Bernie doesn't have the right to blackmail the party into doing what he wants them to do.

[MADem]

8. He comes from a generation that has a hard time saying

I lost, or I was wrong, or I made a mistake.

He's got to back slowly into that "I lost" position, and then he has to pivot and support Clinton. If he doesn't do that after he gets roundly and soundly beaten in DC, then his name is mud.

[Maru Kitteh]

10. Especially to a GIRL.

It's okay, he lost. I don't need to attack him really anymore. It's over.

Now - Susan Sarandon, Weaver, DeVine and Turner? Those nit-wits have duly earned whatever nastiness comes to them from me or anyone else.

[MarianJack]

12. Don't forget...

...Rosario Dawson, who needs to go back to taking her clothes off in bad movies, you know...something she's actually good at doing!

PEACE!

[PJMcK]

26. That's funny even if it's rude! (n/t)

[MarianJack]

32. Thanx, PJMcK!

It was my I'll mannered intent to be rude!

PEACE!

[MADem]

28. LOL!

I have to say, I caught a whiff of that on occasion. Unintentional, I'm sure, but people are products of their environments, aren't they?

Devine is probably busy counting his cash--he got RICH off of that contest.

I can't wait to read/see the book/movie on this primary election--ya gotta know that the inner workings of the BS camp were likely rife with competing priorities. I hope they do one, because I think this was the more interesting of the two primary contests.

[wysi]

9. I was disgusted

I kept yelling at the TV "Now tell us you are quitting!". Of course he's not.

[still_one]

11. I have no problem with him not conceding at tonights event, and even going for the Washington D.C.

primary, but the lack of class in the speech he gave tonight was garbage.

Looks like California didn't buy the magic beans he was trying to sell

[OKNancy]

13. Good read from Politico

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041

[LiberalFighter]

23. If I had a temper that would had gotten me boiling.

[MADem]

30. Wow, if your friends can throw you under the bus like this, what might your enemies do?

Look at all this "Not MY Fault"-ing!!!!! And all this isn't coming from CLINTON--it's coming from INSIDE THE (Bernie) HOUSE!!!!!!

“Bernie’s been at the helm of this campaign from the beginning,” said Weaver, “and the overall message of this campaign and the direction of the campaign and the strategy, has been driven by Bernie.”

Subtext: Even if "I" gave different advice....

“They would be very smart to understand that the best way to approach Bernie is not to try to push him around,” Devine said. “It’s much better if they try to cooperate with him and find common ground. They should be mindful of the fact that the people he’s brought into this process are new to it and they will be very suspicious of any effort to push him around.”

Subtext: He's a loose cannon--he could 'go off' at any minute!

Aides say Sanders thinks that progressives who picked Clinton are cynical, power-chasing chickens — like Sen. Sherrod Brown, one of his most consistent allies in the Senate before endorsing Clinton and campaigning hard for her ahead of the Ohio primary. Sanders is so bitter about it that he’d be ready to nix Brown as an acceptable VP choice, if Clinton ever asked his advice on who’d be a good progressive champion.

Subtext: He's angry and vengeful.

Every time Sanders got into a knife fight, aides say, they ended up losing. But they could never stop Sanders when he got his back up.

Subtext: He's impetuous, his judgment is lousy, and he doesn't listen.


All of this shade is coming from HIS OWN PEOPLE--not outsiders. I'm amazed they didn't break ranks sooner!

[sarae]

36. Incidentally, none of these are qualities I look for in a president.

Just sayin'.

[KewlKat]

14. Well doesn't this say it all? Why he's still in the race?

It was the Vermont senator who personally rewrote his campaign manager’s shorter statement after the chaos at the Nevada state party convention and blamed the political establishment for inciting the violence.

He was the one who made the choice to go after Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz after his wife read him a transcript of her blasting him on television.

He chose the knife fight over calling Clinton unqualified, which aides blame for pulling the bottom out of any hopes they had of winning in New York and their last real chance of turning a losing primary run around.

And when Jimmy Kimmel’s producers asked Sanders’ campaign for a question to ask Donald Trump, Sanders himself wrote the one challenging the Republican nominee to a debate.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4Ayp0Tvfd

he's as cantankerous as I thought he was....seems bitter about everything. He won't leave the race anytime soon...............


and wonder where his supporters get some of their clues from?


..., Sanders is himself filled with resentment, on edge, feeling like he gets no respect -- all while holding on in his head to the enticing but remote chance that Clinton may be indicted before the convention.

[MADem]

31. His staff is DETERMINED to not be blamed for this debacle--and I think this is a pre-emptive strike.

I think they believe Sanders will try to re-write history when he (or Jane, so they can keep the profits) writes a big book about the campaign.

This looks like a coordinated bit of truth-telling--by his OWN staff.

That's never good. For the candidate, anyway. When loyalty is the first casualty, it's all over but the heart-wrenching tears.

[KewlKat]

15. After reading the complete Politico Article.........it sure explains alot

I see no difference in his and drumpf's personalities.....the article is a MUST READ.

[obamanut2012]

16. Effing MCCAIN chided his crowd for booing

During his concession speech to Obama. McCain, of all people, did the right thing.

[justiceischeap]

17. I think the difference between McCain and Sanders

is that McCain knew his campaign was being devisive, mostly with his Palin pick being the catalyst of all the nastiness and he was ready to put that to bed for the good of the nation.

Sanders, after his extortion speech last night, only cares about himself and his movement. Last night, IMO, was him overplaying his hand. Where he could have been gracious and supportive as most adults are in the face of loss, he double-downed on bitterness and I don't think it'll play out for him the way he thinks it will. Last night he damaged his relationship with the Dem Party leaders, particularly the head of the party, Hillary Clinton. If he thinks he can hold Clinton over a barrel, he hasn't been paying much attention to her over the years.

[lunamagica]

29. I think he gave the same speech he had prepared when he thought he was going to

win all the states, esp California, by huge margins. He made no adjustments despite being crushed by the voters.

His and his family's attitudes when they took the stage, beaming like winners, was so delusional, like they live in an alternate universe

[beachbum bob]

18. reporting the facts on sanders is met by disbelief and really this was a tactical mistake by hillary

she should have done a full scale attack on sanders...his past...congressional record, vote record.....we wouldn't be at this point now. She played nice hoping sanders had some type of class, which of course, he doesn't


proven every day

[TwilightZone]

20. No need, she won.

At this point, all of this is just political theater on Sanders part. In the end, he's only harming his "movement" by being obstinate and in denial about the fact that it's over.

When someone insists on flaming out, sometimes you just have to let them.

[MADem]

33. NO. If she had done that, she would have come off as mean-spirited and Holier-Than-Thou.

She played it JUST right--she was the only adult in the room (and I include the shit-stirring Trump in that equation).

Sanders' own STAFF is running from him, blaming him, and stuffing him under the bus.

I'll bet they've already started writing their books. I'll be interested in reading 'em.

When WEAVER (supposedly a good buddy from way back) is quoted as saying, in essence, "Ya can't talk to this guy when he makes up his mind" you know that he was not, is not, was never, and will never be presidential timber.

[SharonClark]

19. That was damning.

His report card would say "Doesn't play well with others".

[MADem]

34. Barney Frank was right! nt

[sarae]

37. "Plays well with others", IMO, is one of the essential qualities a president should possess.

[mercuryblues]

21. Yeah.

Many here suspected that he would not be tactful. He knows there is ZERO chance of winning so what does he do? Let's the crowd boo Clinton, which he has allowed through his entire campaign. Disgusting. He is certainly making no friends in the Democratic party. Bernie is the only one who can pass his purity test...a party of one.

From the politico article:

Word got back to Reid’s team that Weaver had nixed the idea, ruling out backing anyone who hadn’t endorsed Sanders. Weaver says it’s because the Senate hopefuls had to get in line for Sanders’ support behind top backers like Gabbard and Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.)—though neither has a competitive race this year

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4AzgKUzol
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

This was a big failure on his campaign's part. Refusing to get behind dems running for office, because they did not meet his purity test. Whereas Clinton built up massive support and a coalition of supporters. Ideological purity was not a prerequisite for help. She knows that to get things passed in Washington you need a majority of votes, not ideological purity.


Yes, that entire article is well worth the read. I am amazed that many here were close in their assessment of him and the campaign he ran. Two factions in his campaign. One that knows math and one that ignored the math. Bernie aligned himself with the math deniers.

The party and Clinton have to bow to him, for his support. I doubt he will take a backseat to someone who is not as pure as him.

[Blue Idaho]

22. I'm not surprised...

He will continue to beat his dead horse until there is nothing left but it's bones. Frankly I don't expect Sanders to concede to Sec. Clinton - he will simply turn tail and continue to brood until the snow starts falling in Vermont.

He will never support Hillary. You will never hear a full throated endorsement. You will never see him campaigning for Sec. Clinton. I think he has decided his "movement" is bigger than - more important than electing a Democrat. In fact - more important than electing any Democrat.

To hell with him and his delusions of grandeur.

[Arkansas Granny]

24. There's no need to post anything negative about him. Just leave it be.

He can't hurt Hillary now, and there's no need to irritate his supporters. I remember my disappointment in 2008.

[MADem]

35. This is his OWN staff talking about his campaign--I do think it is useful information.

It lets those of us who support Clinton know what the challenges will be in getting Sanders to adjust his world view. It suggests that he might not "pivot" as easily as most do.

And it is coming from his own people--this isn't outsiders trying to be "mean to Bernie" or anything like that.

It sounds, to me, like even his closest staffers are starting to distance themselves from his histrionics. They don't want to be blamed if he decides to get really difficult.

[Legends303]

25. I saw some Sanders supporters hoping for an indictment

and still are on twitter these people really have no shame. They are going to try to override the will of the American people who voted for a clear nomniee because their ego was hurt. I don't think Sanders is not going to go quietly.

[Loki]

27. Petty, little man.

n/t