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Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:38 PM Jun 2016

Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution

Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4AxX3mWDX



There’s no strategist pulling the strings, and no collection of burn-it-all-down aides egging him on. At the heart of the rage against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, the campaign aides closest to him say, is Bernie Sanders.

It was the Vermont senator who personally rewrote his campaign manager’s shorter statement after the chaos at the Nevada state party convention and blamed the political establishment for inciting the violence.

<snip>



I know we are winding down paying attention to the Bern Show, but this had some revealing items.


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Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution (Original Post) Starry Messenger Jun 2016 OP
I've been working under the assumption that he was just getting horrible advice post-Nevada. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #1
"Bernie's revolution" workinclasszero Jun 2016 #2
This wll be a perfect footnote. Thanks. William769 Jun 2016 #3
I suspected some of this, but the extent was pretty eye-opening. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #6
I am also. William769 Jun 2016 #10
That is a brutal, brutal piece. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #4
That piece nailed it. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #12
I can't wait for "Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution II" Walk away Jun 2016 #45
Geez, I was hoping against hope it wasn't like this ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #5
Bitter is a bit of an understatement I think. BootinUp Jun 2016 #7
Yep. About what I imagined from Sanders demeanor lately. stopbush Jun 2016 #8
They're discussing it on MSNBC now. grossproffit Jun 2016 #9
Oo, thanks for the tip. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #13
Saw this coming Monday: stopbush Jun 2016 #11
lol TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15
Oh man! I missed your thread! Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #16
Wow DURHAM D Jun 2016 #14
Pretty horrible! Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #17
Nicole Wallace was the one offering the most support for BS. DURHAM D Jun 2016 #18
Yes, that was a shocker, lol. BootinUp Jun 2016 #21
The Repubs still hold out hope that they can run against spooky3 Jun 2016 #39
+1 savalez Jun 2016 #19
Why do you think BS is not coming out to DURHAM D Jun 2016 #20
Waiting for the purple shade to fade on his face and scalp? BootinUp Jun 2016 #23
I think he honestly thinks there is going to be a surge of votes for him Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #24
Lol! spooky3 Jun 2016 #40
Sorry, I didn't see this before I posted a dup. But, not to worry, Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #22
No probs, it really is quite dishy! Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #27
He wants Tulsi to chair the convention? Princess Turandot Jun 2016 #25
I know, wtf?? Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #26
Thank Goodness for Hillary! Cha Jun 2016 #28
One thing I learned from my union work, always count your votes. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #29
He wasn't smart enough not to come for Hillary. Cha Jun 2016 #30
someone in his campign leaked this story jimw81 Jun 2016 #31
I finally found the time to read the entire article. I'm not surprised at one word of it. Walk away Jun 2016 #32
Tulsi Gabbard!!! Must be joking! Her Sister Jun 2016 #33
I never joke about Tulsi Gabbard! Walk away Jun 2016 #42
Telling. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #34
That list is a huge asset too. A shame it potentially will be let slide. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #35
That was delicious. wildeyed Jun 2016 #36
I hope for more to come out too. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #37
Casca threw him ALL the way under the bus on the NV mess. wildeyed Jun 2016 #41
I have thought for sometime Sanders was running the show. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #38
Maybe Jane could organize it. She did such a good job with Burlington College! Walk away Jun 2016 #43
I feel so bad for those kids who paid their college tuition and now have no college Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #46
Sad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2016 #44

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
1. I've been working under the assumption that he was just getting horrible advice post-Nevada.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:41 PM
Jun 2016

Turns out I was wrong. I have to admit that the members of this group that said it goes all the way to the top were dead-on.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. "Bernie's revolution"
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jun 2016

Is that like the Ron Paul revolution?

Bernie...hmm

I know I've heard that name somewhere but I can't place it.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
6. I suspected some of this, but the extent was pretty eye-opening.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jun 2016

Talk about dodging a bullet.

Still watching CA returns! Saw this on Twitter.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
12. That piece nailed it.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:08 AM
Jun 2016

I never liked him. Yet that was like a sucker punch. Far worse than I thought.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
45. I can't wait for "Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution II"
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jun 2016

It will be fascinating to hear how he tries to blackma... oops, I mean negotiate with the Democratic Party by threatening to pack up his followers and go home to Vermont!

ismnotwasm

(42,443 posts)
5. Geez, I was hoping against hope it wasn't like this
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jun 2016

Dispite hearing all along some insider tales of how he operates. This is just pitiful.

DURHAM D

(32,834 posts)
20. Why do you think BS is not coming out to
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

make his speech? Sick? Sick in the head? Screaming at this staff? Firing the person/people who were interviewed for this story. Making sure he picked up all the travel size personal hygiene items back at the motel?

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
24. I think he honestly thinks there is going to be a surge of votes for him
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:39 AM
Jun 2016

and he wants to deliver a speech saying a close CA win means he has grounds to not concede. He's watching returns in his hotel room. Those people are going to get tired standing out there though, in an airplane hanger...

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
22. Sorry, I didn't see this before I posted a dup. But, not to worry,
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:33 AM
Jun 2016

the more this truth gets out there, the better.

The "hero" with feet of clay needs to be exposed.

Princess Turandot

(4,823 posts)
25. He wants Tulsi to chair the convention?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:41 AM
Jun 2016

And he still wants Barney kicked out?

Is he going to demand that of PBO on Thursday?

Cha

(305,137 posts)
28. Thank Goodness for Hillary!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jun 2016

know it.

There’s no strategist pulling the strings, and no collection of burn-it-all-down aides egging him on. At the heart of the rage against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, the campaign aides closest to him say, is Bernie Sanders.

“I don’t know who advised him that this was the right route to take, but we are now actively destroying what Bernie worked so hard to build over the last year just to pick up two fucking delegates in a state he lost,” rapid response director Mike Casca complained to Weaver in an internal campaign email obtained by POLITICO.

What he got was left wing pundits turning against him and no "fucking" delegates.

Bitter berni.. will be left in the dust..

Aides say Sanders thinks that progressives who picked Clinton are cynical, power-chasing chickens — like Sen. Sherrod Brown, one of his most consistent allies in the Senate before endorsing Clinton and campaigning hard for her ahead of the Ohio primary. Sanders is so bitter about it that he’d be ready to nix Brown as an acceptable VP choice, if Clinton ever asked his advice on who’d be a good progressive champion.

"Every time Sanders got into a knife fight, aides say, they ended up losing. But they could never stop Sanders when he got his back up."

Reid, according to people familiar with the conversation, ended the discussion thinking Sanders was on board. He backed Feingold. But that’s the last anyone heard.

Word got back to Reid’s team that Weaver had nixed the idea, ruling out backing anyone who hadn’t endorsed Sanders. Weaver says it’s because the Senate hopefuls had to get in line for Sanders’ support behind top backers like Gabbard and Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.)—though neither has a competitive race this year.

Sanders never followed up himself
.
One Loser decision after another.

Thanks for this, Starry.. I'm sure there will be more desconstruciing of what went wrong with the BS campaign.

We were all right there to see it.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4AxJ54UK8

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
29. One thing I learned from my union work, always count your votes.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:04 AM
Jun 2016

He should have gauged going in who was going to support him, and he should have talked to his co-workers/Supers to see if there was even soft support there. So many things wrong with this campaign. And it lost!

jimw81

(111 posts)
31. someone in his campign leaked this story
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:32 AM
Jun 2016

I think someone in a senior position leaked this story calling for help to save careers. After the primaries are over the people associate with his campaign will be labeled as toxic in Democratic circles.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
32. I finally found the time to read the entire article. I'm not surprised at one word of it.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:54 AM
Jun 2016

The good news is that he can drop the "Happy Grandpa" act. He's out of cash so it's over.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
33. Tulsi Gabbard!!! Must be joking!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:34 AM
Jun 2016
Meanwhile, they’re looking into trying to replace the Florida congresswoman as the convention chair with Gabbard, and forceWasserman Schultz to resign as DNC chair the day after the convention.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4AzU6zKRs
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forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
34. Telling.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:45 AM
Jun 2016

They haven’t been able to get Sanders focused on any of that, or on the real questions about what kind of long term organization to build out of his email list. They know they’ll have their own rally in Philadelphia – outside the the convention hall—but that’s about as far as they’ve gotten.

He's basically managed to hijack left politics for his own ego.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
35. That list is a huge asset too. A shame it potentially will be let slide.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:48 AM
Jun 2016

Any progressive org would give its eye teeth for it.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
36. That was delicious.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:49 AM
Jun 2016

Schadenfreude is so sweet.

"Every time Sanders got into a knife fight, aides say, they ended up losing. But they could never stop Sanders when he got his back up."

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
37. I hope for more to come out too.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:54 AM
Jun 2016

I want the Sarandon conversation--who signed off on her going around saying a Trump win would make the proles more revolutionary?

So many questions...!

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
41. Casca threw him ALL the way under the bus on the NV mess.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:03 AM
Jun 2016


Wonder if he likes how that feels?

I started reading the campaign tweets and press releases about the time he dissed PP and HRC. That was when I realized that the campaign was directly responsible for the misleading use of polls, nasty talking points and encouraging bro-ish behavior from supporters. Now we know that it all came directly from the top.

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
38. I have thought for sometime Sanders was running the show.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:59 AM
Jun 2016

"Every time Sanders got into a knife fight, aides say, they ended up losing. But they could never stop Sanders when he got his back up.

What I don't get is why Sanders thinks he should have all this influence. It is clear to me as spiteful and angry as he is, he will not deliver votes for presumptive Nominee Clinton (feels good to write presumptive). We are going to have to win without him clearly. I do not understand why he thinks as the loser he has the right to remake the Democratic system. He can't organize his way out of a paper bag and the so-called movement will die on the vine...as it takes real work to organize this sort of thing. He won't do the heavy lifting. I think the kindness shown by our nominee has emboldened Sanders who's ego is the size of Texas...so it needs to stop. The Democratic primary process worked just fine...it stopped a guy who never had a chance to win the general and that is what it is designed to do.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4AzXdeY4O
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Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
46. I feel so bad for those kids who paid their college tuition and now have no college
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:49 PM
Jun 2016

Terrible situation.

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