They honestly didn't know Bernie was going to lose.

[LexVegas]

I've known it and said so since March. It reminds me of Republican voters in 2012 that were genuinely surprised that Romney lost. This primary wasn't even close.

[Gomez163]

1. The put all the Hillary people on ignore so yeah.

[Democrats Ascendant]

28. Echo.....

....... Sanders = Muad'Dib!

[artyteacher]

2. my significant other and i have been saying it was over...

Since Feb 20, when she won Nevada for the first time.

[LiberalFighter]

22. I didn't quite have that optimism at the time.

[artyteacher]

24. weve been rofl at tyt...

For months. They used to be so good too.

[stopbush]

23. Agreed. The fact that Sanders lost NV coming out of his YUGE win in NH

told the world that he was going to underperform in the primaries.

He had a bad case of "no-mentum™" that he never got over.

[artyteacher]

25. exactly... nt

[BootinUp]

3. Just shows how a candidate can create their own reality for the flock to believe. nt

[Basic LA]

6. Exactly! They created a false narrative about Hillary.

It's going to be hard if not impossible to shake off the delusional thinking that they're pure and everyone else is evil.

[KittyWampus]

21. It is VERY similar to the Neo-Cons who invent their own reality and leave us

the rest of us in the "Reality-Based Community".

[Democrats Ascendant]

27. Sorry, but it's willful ignorance. They get no benefit of the doubt from me.

Lots of cherrypicking, intentional ignoring (i.e., ignorance), and readiness to embrace RW hatefulness.

[Starry Messenger]

4. It's like those people fighting who didn't know the war was over.

[artyteacher]

5. they're in it ...

Until the end of her second term....

[NurseJackie]

10. That's messed up. But, I believe you're correct ...

... and isn't that just sad (and a little funny, too)?

[beachbum bob]

7. like this, sanders kept them stringing along....$27 at a time

[Haveadream]

8. That is what happens when the only voice you hear is your own

An echo chamber may feel good in the moment but it isn't reality. When they emerge from that they are shocked to find a whole different world has been proceeding without them. The advent of computers just further insulates them from opinions other than their own. For those on the outside looking in, they really do appear deranged. It is like the methods used by a cult, though in this case, the isolation is self imposed.

[Arkansas Granny]

12. This! They totally ignored any opinion that didn't agree with their own.

[DemonGoddess]

15. +1000!

[stopbush]

26. Exactly. You hold these huge rallies which are not a dialogue with the candidate.

They're preaching to the choir, and everyone knows that the choir never gets to ask questions of the preacher.

At the same time, they scoff at Hillary holding small gatherings whose raison d'être is to connect with voters and listen to what they have to say.

[SharonClark]

33. When you describe people who don't support your candidate as ---

low-information, corporatist, war mongers, war hawks, vagina voters, 1%, too old to matter, blood on their hands, pro-fracking, bought and sold, elitist, or anti-democratic, it is really hard to think their opinion and vote counts.

[Haveadream]

34. Great point!

Maybe that is why they feel no regret about having 3 million of them erased!

[CanonRay]

9. Bernie's rapid rise out of nowhere

reflects a deep discontent with the way the Democratic Party has been the last 20 or so years. I sincerely hope our nominee keeps that in mind, and that the Party hierarchy learns as well.

[BlueCaliDem]

13. Sanders' rapid rise out of nowhere has everything to do with our male-centric

country, and nothing to do with his bombastic rhetoric, the refusal to vet him by our media, the millions donated to and spent on his behalf by Republicans.

What happened yesterday, despite all the above, is truly is historic in more ways than one. For the first time in history, a woman won the nomination of a major political Party and despite all the efforts to take her down, she won and will continue win. I sincerely hope your preferred candidate, his followers, and recalcitrant pro-GOP U.S. media learn that and understand, people can fool some of the people some of the time, but can't fool all of the people all of the time.

[Cha]

16. I'm glad you responded to that post, too, BlueCali.

I think he does support Hillary.. but he obviously doesn't know sanders very well or what his campaign was about.

[BlueCaliDem]

37. Any time, Cha.

And, again, I believe you're correct.

[DawgHouse]

35. ^^^ great post!

[BlueCaliDem]

36. Thanks, DawgHouse! :-) eom

[Cha]

14. BS demonized Hillary and the Dem Party.. he promised his fans things he could never deliver.

I trust Hillary and I do not trust BS. He wanted President Obama to be primared in 2012.. He has a long list of hating on Democrats for years because they're not as pure as he sets himself up to be.

Turns out sanders isn't so pure after all when he got vetted.. which wasn't that much by the media but there was plenty on his history of record online.

[charlyvi]

18. On the Contrary

I think historians will look back on Obama's presidency and place him, rightfully so, along side of FDR, JFK, LBJ, and William Jefferson Clinton. YMMV

[SunSeeker]

11. Exactly right.

It was not even close.

[DemonGoddess]

17. Well

I voted on April 5 for HRC, KNOWING she's already won this! I'm sure that many today will do the same!

This refusal to see him losing is a direct result of people seeing the end of patriarchy in our country.

[Fla Dem]

19. That is what happens when you exist in an echo chamber and just listen to the cult leader.

I had this exchange with a Bernie supporter yesterday. Pnwmom also tried to shed some light into their dark place. Finally there just was no point. I walked away SMH.

It started with this post:

basselope (2,552 posts) Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:45 PM

She still won't have enough delegates to clinch.

Sorry, just reality. Something Clintonites have a hard time with.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2131313

It went down hill from there:

[charlyvi]

20. Some still don't think he will

Either indictment or SD flippage.

[Haveadream]

30. For those who keep stressing things being democratic

their desire to have party insiders overturn 3 million citizen's votes is astonishing. I still can't wrap my head around those ethics.

[Iliyah]

29. Some truly believe that California is winner take all 400 something delegates

[Gothmog]

31. Denial is not just a river in Africa

It has been clear to me since the March 1 super Tuesday primaries that Sanders had no chance. The fact the Sanders supporters ignored these facts is amazing to me

[robbedvoter]

32. Just like Trump lives in the RW talk radio echo chamber info hell, they too

created a crazy bubble - and some of the conspiracies are common - vaccines, GMO, Hillary crazy accusations. It's THEIR reality - nothing can penetrate that shell