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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:37 PM Jun 2016

I'm pissed at the AP--they're undercutting/jumping Clinton's victory rally and speech

tomorrow.

It's also going to feed a lot of negative perceptions (won based on backroom rigging rather than voting), since they're basing it off of superdelegates who haven't even disclosed their intentions in public yet.

the AP has been calling them up and asking them if they're committed and to whom, and apparently quite a few blabbed.

I imagine Brooklyn will disclaim this.

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I'm pissed at the AP--they're undercutting/jumping Clinton's victory rally and speech (Original Post) geek tragedy Jun 2016 OP
SDs commit to the candidate...not a media outlet beachbumbob Jun 2016 #1
I don't think it matters, frankly. We've known it was over for weeks. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #2
I know, it's just it was pretty clear the Clinton campaign told these people to STFU geek tragedy Jun 2016 #4
Well, we're excited about supporting Hillary, so...maybe so are they! lol TwilightZone Jun 2016 #9
I just hope that everyone still votes tomorrow KewlKat Jun 2016 #3
I don't mind if a certain group of voters stays home... teamster633 Jun 2016 #8
should I take down my thread which announces it. I DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #10
Leave it up. savalez Jun 2016 #28
I'm still voting tomorrow shadowandblossom Jun 2016 #33
It's a total anti-Hillary move. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #5
I don't even want to think about how this is going over in Bernieworld. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #6
I know it doesn't mean much but I'm not callling it on my site till After the New Jersey Primary. William769 Jun 2016 #12
No. Just venting. Thanks nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #23
Nah, he and his supporters can complain all they want and it won't matter. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #16
Maybe he never would have anyway. wisteria Jun 2016 #25
Yes. AP jumping the gun to "call it" doesn't do anything for me. Hortensis Jun 2016 #7
AP is trying to rain on the parade. DURHAM D Jun 2016 #11
Why? wisteria Jun 2016 #26
YES DURHAM D Jun 2016 #29
Since it's a done deal anyway--I can totally see that ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #13
Not Cool AP otohara Jun 2016 #14
I've known that Hillary has this sewn up but I guarantee you I am still skylucy Jun 2016 #15
This is NOT good for our candidate KewlKat Jun 2016 #17
I agree after thinking about it. This should have been her moment. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #18
Not a big deal either way! texstad79 Jun 2016 #19
We still have to encourage all those in the states that vote tomorrow to GOTV!!! eastwestdem Jun 2016 #20
1988 Standing In Line to Vote otohara Jun 2016 #21
I agree charlyvi Jun 2016 #22
Le'ts just celebrate for 3 days! Which includes tomorrow! Her Sister Jun 2016 #24
Its NOT the AP and other news services, its the SD's BootinUp Jun 2016 #27
they're bandwagon jumpers with big mouths geek tragedy Jun 2016 #31
I am glad it is over Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #30
Agree. Spot on analysis. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #32
Sorry, it makes no sense to me to punish the press in this case. BootinUp Jun 2016 #34
Oh I'm annoyed with the blabber mouths too geek tragedy Jun 2016 #35
Haven't most SuperDs publically announced already? SharonClark Jun 2016 #36
These were superdelegates who didn't go public nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #37
While I wish they'd waited until today DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #38
I feel the same way obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #39

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
2. I don't think it matters, frankly. We've known it was over for weeks.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jun 2016

As for Hillary's rally and speech, tomorrow is still as good a time as any because tomorrow's delegates will only add to her total, regardless. Would tomorrow have been a better visual? Sure. But in the long run, the end result is the same.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. I know, it's just it was pretty clear the Clinton campaign told these people to STFU
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

for a very good reason, and they didn't

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
9. Well, we're excited about supporting Hillary, so...maybe so are they! lol
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jun 2016

It's also possible that the AP knew about some of them already, and it only took one or two more to seal the deal.

KewlKat

(5,656 posts)
3. I just hope that everyone still votes tomorrow
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jun 2016

and doesn't stay home because of this announcement.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
10. should I take down my thread which announces it. I
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jun 2016

I am worried too. It probably does not make a difference the info is out there

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
33. I'm still voting tomorrow
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:57 PM
Jun 2016

This is a historic moment and I want to be a part of it.

I'm thinking the vast majority of people won't know anyway... (Kind of wish I didn't yet.)

LuvLoogie

(7,566 posts)
5. It's a total anti-Hillary move.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

It does undercut her hard won victory. Bernie will never accept the New Jersey and California results.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. I don't even want to think about how this is going over in Bernieworld.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

They're right to be a bit pissed about a winner being called based on private conversations with party insiders

Screw you, AP.

William769

(55,857 posts)
12. I know it doesn't mean much but I'm not callling it on my site till After the New Jersey Primary.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jun 2016

CNN has her at 2371. It should be 2360 by my last count.

Not much we can do about it, is there?

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
16. Nah, he and his supporters can complain all they want and it won't matter.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

Everyone else will move on to the GE.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
25. Maybe he never would have anyway.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jun 2016

I just can't help thinking there is more behind this.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Yes. AP jumping the gun to "call it" doesn't do anything for me.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

They could have done that long ago.

Votes matter to me. Tomorrow people vote and tomorrow I'll be glad.

ismnotwasm

(42,478 posts)
13. Since it's a done deal anyway--I can totally see that
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jun 2016

It's all over social media already.

We are going to have to have a three day party to handle this.

skylucy

(3,865 posts)
15. I've known that Hillary has this sewn up but I guarantee you I am still
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jun 2016

going to cast my ballot for Hillary tomorrow. (in California)

KewlKat

(5,656 posts)
17. This is NOT good for our candidate
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

This was disrespectful to her and I worry many now will stay home thinking she won't need their vote........and then bs might take CA.............and feel more strongly than ever to stay in.

texstad79

(115 posts)
19. Not a big deal either way!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

Its been obvious to anyone living in the real world for a long time.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
20. We still have to encourage all those in the states that vote tomorrow to GOTV!!!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jun 2016

No one likes it when Sanders brags...

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
21. 1988 Standing In Line to Vote
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:00 PM
Jun 2016

in a hurry because I'm going to Boulder to see Joe Jackson in concert.

The polling place was at an old hotel with a bar and TV sets were around with Dan Rather doing election coverage. He does the breaking news bit - called if for Reagan and me and a whole bunch of other folks walked out.

Not happy about this at all.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
24. Le'ts just celebrate for 3 days! Which includes tomorrow!
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jun 2016

All will be for the BEST!!!

AP did the same with Trump! They like to get the scoop!
It's what news like to do!

No Matter! Nothing will derail HER or US!
Tomorrow everyone VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!
SEND HER PROPERLY to the WhiteHouse!

You voting tomorrow will be a celebration!

BootinUp

(49,169 posts)
27. Its NOT the AP and other news services, its the SD's
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jun 2016

they don't trust Bernie and they DO trust Hillary and they pledged to support her.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
31. they're bandwagon jumpers with big mouths
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jun 2016

sorry to be blunt and angry, but the campaign asked them to keep their mouths shut until they announced it, and they didn't

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
30. I am glad it is over
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:14 PM
Jun 2016

No matter what it has been called and Bernie is going to have to deal with reality...he has turned out to be nothing like I thought...really a nasty guy. I think she takes California.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
32. Agree. Spot on analysis.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jun 2016
They're undercutting/jumping Clinton's victory rally and speech tomorrow.


Not to mention encouraging every insane conspiracy theorist out there.

I'm over-the-moon, but annoyed with AP and the big-mouth supers at the same time.

BootinUp

(49,169 posts)
34. Sorry, it makes no sense to me to punish the press in this case.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jun 2016

I much prefer getting information when it is available than having them hold it for political reasons. If anyone is to blame, it is those that pledged support. I assume they were sending Bernie a message. Keep in mind that Bernie has extended this campaign by lieing for the last couple of months saying it was a steep climb. Nonsense. He has been eliminated mathematically for a long time. The SD's have their own motivations, you would have to ask them why they did this today.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
35. Oh I'm annoyed with the blabber mouths too
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jun 2016

If the campaign wanted them talking, they would have told them so

SharonClark

(10,350 posts)
36. Haven't most SuperDs publically announced already?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:52 AM
Jun 2016

The AP was just doing their job in reporting an historic moment in history. Hillary can't control the media and neither can Sanders even though it may disrupt their plans.

DemonGoddess

(5,125 posts)
38. While I wish they'd waited until today
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:55 AM
Jun 2016

I'm not going to fault a news outlet for reporting actual news. THAT is their impetus, not what either candidate wanted, but the news.

Thing is, it's BIG news, and HISTORIC. The FIRST woman candidate to have won the nomination of a major political party in this country. So that is what I'm focusing on instead, is the historic nature of her candidacy!

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