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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:29 PM Jun 2016

Confirmed: Bernie Sanders Used Campaign Funds For Overnight Trip To Italy (HRC GP)

http://www.politicade.com/confirmed-bernie-sanders-illegally-used-campaign-funds-for-overnight-trip-to-italy/


AIR CHARTER TEAM AIR TRAVEL KANSAS CITY MO 64116 04/11/2016 $613,451


Presidential Campaign Finance Reports, which include receipts and disbursements for the month of April, have been in ’processing’ status since they were submitted to the FEC on 5/20. Yesterday, the FEC made the detailed campaign finance reports available to the public.

The reports provide evidence that Bernie Sanders ..... used campaign funds for his overnight stay in Italy with 10 family members. Lodging at the 5-star luxury Hotel Boscolo Exedra in Rome, Italy was billed to the campaign in the amount of $13,758. Rooms at the luxury hotel start at $400 a night and go up to $8,000 a night. Additional expenses include $883 for lodging and catering at Hotel Michelangelo in Rome.

On 4/8, Bernie Sanders announced he would travel to the Vatican on 4/15. Private chartered flights must be paid in full before scheduled departure date. On 4/11, the campaign disbursed $613,451 for chartered air travel. This amount dwarfs all other Sanders’ campaign air charter travel expenses to date.



FEC filings: http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandCmteTransaction.do


Also this article: http://www.politicade.com/did-bernie-sanders-illegally-use-campaign-funds-to-take-family-to-italy/
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Confirmed: Bernie Sanders Used Campaign Funds For Overnight Trip To Italy (HRC GP) (Original Post) Her Sister Jun 2016 OP
Dunno if we can claim illegally yet metroins Jun 2016 #1
Yeah, I would add 'allegedly' caquillo Jun 2016 #2
I took the word out. It's still part of the link. Her Sister Jun 2016 #4
Everybody knew this was a bad Idea metroins Jun 2016 #6
At the very least this is unethical and highlights his hypocisy lunamagica Jun 2016 #3
Living it up on the backs of his supporters. puffy socks Jun 2016 #5
He may acquire a different sort of conviction. Koinos Jun 2016 #9
He stated clearly at the time that this was not a campaign related trip DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #7
But did be use a U.S. Gov't or personal server to purchase said tickets? Zambero Jun 2016 #8
No not zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ~ This is HRC GP! Her Sister Jun 2016 #10
I'm for Hillary. But I mispoke in replying? Zambero Jun 2016 #12
Be sure to include Kerry, Rice & Powell in your insult if you want to be taken seriously. displacedtexan Jun 2016 #25
LIke I said Zambero Jun 2016 #28
Understand! Everyone is different! Her Sister Jun 2016 #39
We've been waiting to find out how he paid for this trip! Her Sister Jun 2016 #11
This a very big deal. Koinos Jun 2016 #13
I'm starting to think a good way to figure out what someone is guilty of sarae Jun 2016 #14
Yes that makes total sense!~ Why would they think of something if it is not because it's a reality Her Sister Jun 2016 #16
yes, exactly! sarae Jun 2016 #17
I am sure his supporters will spin this brer cat Jun 2016 #15
True about spin attempts. But it's really hard to see how this spooky3 Jun 2016 #20
Can you imagine sarae Jun 2016 #24
K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #18
the FEC process doesn't indict or have trials I think...like the IRS once they make an beachbum bob Jun 2016 #19
According to the miniscule amount of tax info Jane has offered up, they are worth $500,000.00 or so. Walk away Jun 2016 #21
sanders will ask for "private donations" beachbum bob Jun 2016 #22
"private donations"? What's that? Like getting up on a table and doing a little dance... Walk away Jun 2016 #23
Is it not complicated by the fact he is currently a U.S. Senator? DURHAM D Jun 2016 #29
Wonder how many votes resulted from this trip. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #26
Quite a few actually, but none of them went to him jmowreader Jun 2016 #27
You are probably right. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #30
Hotel: Her Sister Jun 2016 #31
Flight: Her Sister Jun 2016 #32
DEVINE MULVEY LONGABAUGH INC VIDEO PRODUCTION WASHINGTON DC 20007 04/27/2016 $321,271 Her Sister Jun 2016 #33
WEAVER, JEFFREY PAYROLL FALLS CHURCH VA 22046 04/15/2016 $4,951 X WEAVER, JEFFREY PAYROLL FALLS CH Her Sister Jun 2016 #34
That hotel has a presidential suite.. Princess Turandot Jun 2016 #35
Next up: Bernie cries fraud & campaigns to replace Pope Francis with misterhighwasted Jun 2016 #36
No way for Bernie to be pope. Koinos Jun 2016 #40
Uh oh. Ahh yes the promise of free stuff..for a small monthly fee of $27. misterhighwasted Jun 2016 #41
Under no circumstance should the DNC accept to settle his debt..... Historic NY Jun 2016 #37
Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #38
Still wondering about the Vatican Trip! Her Sister Jun 2016 #42
If there is a problem, I'm sure the FEC will send a letter to the Sanders campaign. Koinos Jun 2016 #43
Who knows how much the Secret Service and other government people cost us? George II Jun 2016 #44

caquillo

(521 posts)
2. Yeah, I would add 'allegedly'
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jun 2016

Incidentally, notice how courteous and considerate we Hillary supporters continue to be? Even in the Hillary Clinton group. If the tables were turned, the BernieBros wouldn't even bother to make the distinction. They'd be too busy salivating at the prospect. smh

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
4. I took the word out. It's still part of the link.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jun 2016

But looking at the FEC filing I found this:

AIR CHARTER TEAM AIR TRAVEL KANSAS CITY MO 64116 04/11/2016 $613,451

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandCmteTransaction.do

metroins

(2,550 posts)
6. Everybody knew this was a bad Idea
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jun 2016

When he chose to do it.

It shows how incompetent his upper management team is.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
3. At the very least this is unethical and highlights his hypocisy
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jun 2016

Why the need to stay at a 5-star hotel? A nice clean, affordable hotel wasn't good enough for him?

And taking 10 family members? All this with other people's money? Shame, shame, shame

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
5. Living it up on the backs of his supporters.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

and yet I'll wager they will still send him more money and pretend this is no big deal as each time Bernie breaks with his supposed convictions they make excuses and try and justify it. Can't wait to hear the spin on this.

"The reports provide evidence that Bernie Sanders illegally used campaign funds for his overnight stay in Italy with 10 family members. Lodging at the 5-star luxury Hotel Boscolo Exedra in Rome, Italy was billed to the campaign in the amount of $13,758. Rooms at the luxury hotel start at $400 a night and go up to $8,000 a night. Additional expenses include $883 for lodging and catering at Hotel Michelangelo in Rome."


I dislike this man more and more each day. He has none of the convictions he purports to have.

DemonGoddess

(5,108 posts)
7. He stated clearly at the time that this was not a campaign related trip
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jun 2016

and was personal. So, that would mean he did violate at the least finance rules for elections, since it is illegal to use campaign funds for personal use. But, we'll have to wait and see what an investigation shows.

Zambero

(9,736 posts)
8. But did be use a U.S. Gov't or personal server to purchase said tickets?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Either way, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
And Hillary's emails? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Yawn. Wake up. Back to real issues again.

Zambero

(9,736 posts)
12. I'm for Hillary. But I mispoke in replying?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016

Sorry, I guess you missed the point!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.................

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
25. Be sure to include Kerry, Rice & Powell in your insult if you want to be taken seriously.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

And if you really want to be taken seriously, try to avoid using rightwing smears against Democrats.

Zambero

(9,736 posts)
28. LIke I said
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jun 2016

I happen to support Hillary. Her email server and Bernie's plane ticket fare do not interest me as distractions from real issues, and bore me to tears, although some live and breathe it. If that is "right wing", my sincerest apologies.

For possible clarification and in hopes of not upsetting anyone else, the "sarcasm" smilie on my earlier post has now been activated.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
11. We've been waiting to find out how he paid for this trip!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jun 2016

He tried to make a big deal out of the trip.

So Yeah some of us want to know!

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
13. This a very big deal.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

Why didn't his lawyer stop him from doing it?

Too busy suing the universe, I suppose.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
14. I'm starting to think a good way to figure out what someone is guilty of
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jun 2016

is to look at what they accuse others of doing. Between BS and DT, I see a pattern emerging here. They both project like crazy.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
16. Yes that makes total sense!~ Why would they think of something if it is not because it's a reality
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jun 2016

for their own selves!

Trump thinks of crooked because he is oozing crookedness


Like people who are very jealous because they are the ones that cheat on their mates!

sarae

(3,284 posts)
17. yes, exactly!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jun 2016

Haven't they even done studies that show that the most jealous people are the ones most likely to cheat? I swear I've heard that before.

No wonder Trump is always calling other people liars.

brer cat

(26,164 posts)
15. I am sure his supporters will spin this
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

as a necessary and "modest" campaign expense. To me it seems more like an extravagance someone in the 1% would do, and something they would have screamed at Hillary for doing.

spooky3

(36,109 posts)
20. True about spin attempts. But it's really hard to see how this
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

International trip could be justified as a campaign expense, regardless of how lavish it was.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
19. the FEC process doesn't indict or have trials I think...like the IRS once they make an
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jun 2016

administrative ruling on misuse...they can levy fines, and they then refer to DOJ for prosecution



http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_compliance.shtml

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
21. According to the miniscule amount of tax info Jane has offered up, they are worth $500,000.00 or so.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jun 2016

So this should completely wipe them out!!!! If you think he looks angry now...wait until he is a loser and broke!

But hey! He did get to stalk the Pope!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
22. sanders will ask for "private donations"
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jun 2016

always seeking a handout...and not taking responsibility...a real classy guy....fortunately proving every day how much we saved america from his kind

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
23. "private donations"? What's that? Like getting up on a table and doing a little dance...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jun 2016

for Benjamins??? I can't imagine Bernie doing that. It would entail work.

DURHAM D

(32,834 posts)
29. Is it not complicated by the fact he is currently a U.S. Senator?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jun 2016

Can he take those private donations?

Seems to me he will need to get a loan and pay back the campaign. Then he will need to resign and go on a speaking tour where everyone pays $27 to get in.

jmowreader

(51,401 posts)
27. Quite a few actually, but none of them went to him
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jun 2016

A LOT of people saw through this shit when he did it, and voted for the adult in the race.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
33. DEVINE MULVEY LONGABAUGH INC VIDEO PRODUCTION WASHINGTON DC 20007 04/27/2016 $321,271
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:38 AM
Jun 2016
DEVINE MULVEY LONGABAUGH INC VIDEO PRODUCTION WASHINGTON DC 20007 04/27/2016 $321,271

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandCmteTransaction.do

Pay Cut?
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
34. WEAVER, JEFFREY PAYROLL FALLS CHURCH VA 22046 04/15/2016 $4,951 X WEAVER, JEFFREY PAYROLL FALLS CH
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:43 AM
Jun 2016

WEAVER, JEFFREY PAYROLL FALLS CHURCH VA 22046 04/15/2016 $4,951 X
WEAVER, JEFFREY PAYROLL FALLS CHURCH VA 22046 04/29/2016 $4,951 X


So about 10,000 for month of April.

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandCmteTransaction.do

Princess Turandot

(4,823 posts)
35. That hotel has a presidential suite..
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

photo here: http://exedra-roma.boscolohotels.com/rooms-suites-rome/presidential-suite

Google maps 'see inside' view:
https://goo.gl/maps/MuqmAjeJ6T72

That view is set on the sitting room; you can pan around, and clicking on various areas will take you to other rooms.



misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
36. Next up: Bernie cries fraud & campaigns to replace Pope Francis with
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jun 2016

Pope Bernie.
He truely wants a kingdom.

Go for it bern!

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
41. Uh oh. Ahh yes the promise of free stuff..for a small monthly fee of $27.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sure pope bern will find a way to make the loyal ones believe they're getting something for nothing

Historic NY

(37,810 posts)
37. Under no circumstance should the DNC accept to settle his debt.....
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jun 2016

I won't let my donation go to them for that. He can spend the next couple of yrs trying to get money from people. I'm hearing people are stepping forward to challenge him in his 2018 re-election.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
42. Still wondering about the Vatican Trip!
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 08:43 AM
Jun 2016

What a strange decision! I think Sachs thought he was being so clever!

Koinos

(2,798 posts)
43. If there is a problem, I'm sure the FEC will send a letter to the Sanders campaign.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jun 2016

And the FEC will then make the letter public, as they have done thus far in the case of individual contributions that exceeded $2700.

I just hope the DNC doesn't pay for the trip, in order to get some promise of cooperation from Bernie. He has a way of breaking promises.

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