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ellisonz

(27,745 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:48 AM Jan 2013

Dean on a 2016 run: 'Probably not, but we'll see'

Former gov. says he isn't ruling anything out
Published 7:51 PM EST Jan 10, 2013

MONTPELIER, Vt. —Will Howard Dean make another run for the presidency in 2016? He says "probably not, but we'll see."
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Dean tells The Associated Press he isn't ruling out the possibility of seeking the Democratic nomination, which he tried for and didn't get in 2004.

When asked about a possible 2016 run, the former Vermont governor laughed and said he'd have to see a psychiatrist first.

He says a second run may be harder than a first, because the candidate knows what he or she is getting into.

Read more: http://www.wptz.com/news/vermont-new-york/burlington/Dean-on-a-2016-run-Probably-not-but-we-ll-see/-/8869880/18089568/-/jnnrr8/-/index.html#ixzz2HegKqaIv


Yeah I don't think he's running - not even to be a voice - but fuck it: HOWARD DEAN IN 2016 - YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!

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Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
1. He'd make a better vice-president than most.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:55 AM
Jan 2013

He'd no more be allowed the presidency than would Dennis Kucinich.

I hope they both run!

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
2. his run would be nothing more than symbolic, like George McGovern's last run
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:55 AM
Jan 2013

if he wants to be in it, why not run for lower office?

Why not emmulate the great Jerry Brown and just run.
Being a talking head is great for the pocketbook, but you gotta be in it to do anything but yap

so why not run for senate or some house seat somewhere? Or Gov. or Mayor or something.

He could win a red seat somewhere, why not?

Of course, he could be Hillary45's VP. There are many people who could.
He would be one of them.

again, solely because of the party's makeup and the demographic change, it will not be a white male who is nominated in 2016.
It would be political suicide for the dems to do that, and they know that.
Again, solely based on the party itself and demographics.

ellisonz

(27,745 posts)
6. Vermont has a full bench.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jan 2013

Sanders, Leahy, Welch. And I don't think he's interested in being governor again (plus he might be termed out).

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
7. Every single rep seat is open? He could move to Virginia and run there
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:16 PM
Jan 2013

why the need to be senator or governor

why not mayor or house

like Jerry Brown did in between terms as governor

ellisonz

(27,745 posts)
8. He's a Vermonter for the duration. It's in his heart.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jan 2013

Also, I'm not sure why he would want to be Mayor of Burlington or something like that. He wants national media access.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
11. then why would he want to be President/ he has to move to DC to be president
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jan 2013

so it's media he wants(ego?), or to serve the party or the people?

better to win a house seat and make it easier to win the house in general to get what one wants passed.

that's why I love Jerry Brown.
He became Mayor of Oakland, became ag, became a few other jobs in between and wasn't in it to do anything but serve the public, of which he has done about the best possible job of anyone.

it's getting things done that is important, not the ego trip.

imho
(and I hope Jerry runs for reelection, and secretly would love Jerry to be Hillary's VP, but I doubt that is on the table)

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. Dean is younger than I thought
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:27 AM
Jan 2013

He's be 67 in 2016. The thing is he has executive experience, but not much in the way of foreign policy. I tend to agree he'd be a good VP nominee.

 

michigandem58

(1,044 posts)
4. No thanks
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:44 AM
Jan 2013

Fair or not, the last run pretty much ended in embarassment for him and the party. Biden, Clinton, and probably a few others are more electable.

Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
12. Dean revitalized the party with his 50 state strategy, he worked his ass off.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jan 2013

we have a strong nationwide ground effort in place to get dems in office because of his leadership in the DNC. One could be at least a WEE bit grateful.

Bush embarrassed his party daily, here and abroad. it mattered not.

But I do see Dean as a vice-pres possibility, not at the top of the ticket, not realistically.

 

michigandem58

(1,044 posts)
13. Sorry if my reply seemed ungrateful
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jan 2013

I am, I just don't think he's an asset as a national candidate at this point.

Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
14. We're in fair amount of agreement.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jan 2013

I would like to see him run with other candidates in 2016 primary, the debates would be excellent.

And possible VP position for DEan.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
5. At this point he's one of a few that I would be happy with as our next President.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:06 AM
Jan 2013

We have to try to do better than the center-right expected crowd.

ellisonz

(27,745 posts)
10. Well if Howard or someone else promising doesn't run...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jan 2013

...I'm tethering myself to the Biden Blimp.

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