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Whoa. Even the media won't go there; so glad he did! (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2013 OP
The hard right has a history of LYING. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #1
This is a long term victory in the war, on a day where a battle was lost graham4anything Apr 2013 #2
So babylonsister Apr 2013 #6
Wars have battles. The Battle of Normandy in WW2 had many bad days before total victory occured graham4anything Apr 2013 #7
Thanks for this great reminder Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #9
Indeed. Mark it down. WE WILL WIN. lastlib Apr 2013 #15
I pray you are right G4A. Boomerproud Apr 2013 #19
President Obama, as always, is a lot nicer than me IrishAyes Apr 2013 #34
He has to get the word out anyway he can. Media won't even allow the voice of the POTUS on the air. freshwest Apr 2013 #3
The worst was Meet the Press putting LaP. on air as if he should have that voice. graham4anything Apr 2013 #8
I remember that - so many other worthy voices to give a platform to - shows who owns 'em. freshwest Apr 2013 #53
media facilitators mehrrh Apr 2013 #50
+1,000 freshwest Apr 2013 #54
Exactly. Hopefully, this ain't over! nt Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #4
thanks babylonsistah! Cha Apr 2013 #5
Tweet pic of Mark Barden and VP Biden hugging over actions of Senate.. Cha Apr 2013 #10
Humanity versus the merchants of death. One step at a time. Reid voted to allow a vote next time. freshwest Apr 2013 #22
I believe that too, freshwest. This is not Cha Apr 2013 #25
I've never seen him this pissed. tblue Apr 2013 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author spedtr90 Apr 2013 #11
Wrong thread. nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #17
Thread hijack fail. cliffordu Apr 2013 #18
This is a thread about the defeat of the Gun Law that the Parents Cha Apr 2013 #26
I missed the comment, Cha. sheshe2 Apr 2013 #36
You're welcome she. So, is this one.. Cha Apr 2013 #39
OMG! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #40
.. Cha Apr 2013 #41
Her eyes. tblue Apr 2013 #45
wow.. can't take you anywhere... SemperEadem Apr 2013 #33
Those damn senators need to walk by pictures of those killed in Sandy Hook everyday... CapnSteve Apr 2013 #12
Wonder if we can by our members of congress back? Match the NRA/gun industry blood money + firenewt Apr 2013 #27
the truth is going further still ellennelle Apr 2013 #13
We've been saying this around DU for a while now. Brigid Apr 2013 #31
And gun mfrs. are not liable for deaths or injuries caused by their products Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #42
Its a unique product. snort Apr 2013 #52
Actually the senators are on the take. daybranch Apr 2013 #48
I know this is a serious subject, but... OnlinePoker Apr 2013 #14
... OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #20
Here ya go... OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #24
Yes, there is quite a resemblance. Brigid Apr 2013 #32
Looks quite a bit like Jeff Dunham's Walter (puppet) n/t socialindependocrat Apr 2013 #46
I wouldn't personally... IrishAyes Apr 2013 #35
Actually I thought Biden looked like.. NastyRiffraff Apr 2013 #47
Glad he told the truth here! Indyfan53 Apr 2013 #16
"EVEN" the media won't go there? hvn_nbr_2 Apr 2013 #21
+1 freshwest Apr 2013 #23
Obama called them all out: GOP, NRA, the whole murdering cowardly bunch. GOTV 2014! Hekate Apr 2013 #28
He sure did. It was a thing of beauty. And for all babylonsister Apr 2013 #38
nice point! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2013 #43
I dis him all the time. kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #49
it was a powerful speech KT2000 Apr 2013 #29
Exactly. We know what the people who voted against it were thinking, babylonsister Apr 2013 #30
Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #37
"Even" the media? truebluegreen Apr 2013 #51
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
2. This is a long term victory in the war, on a day where a battle was lost
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:17 PM
Apr 2013

The defeat of the national reciprocity amendment is a major defeat for the NRA.
They tried a poison pen amendment and it failed big time.

That would have weakened or obliterated the states that had good gun control had it taken place.

They tried to pull a fast one.

babylonsister

(171,578 posts)
6. So
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:34 PM
Apr 2013

now this is good news? Seriously, I'm glad you're talking.

Thanks for educating me. I am not familiar with the particulars of what was won/lost, all I know about are the basics, and the President's reaction.

And now I need to read all about the national reciprocity amendment.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
7. Wars have battles. The Battle of Normandy in WW2 had many bad days before total victory occured
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:40 PM
Apr 2013

There were battles lost
There was a big battle won.

Unfortunately hundreds, thousands will die.

Why can't the NRA just give it up now?
But their time is ending.
Like a panademic. It takes a while for a vaccine to be made, and distributed.

President Obama's speech today was a battle cry. I never heard of any national leader speak out so strongly agaisnt the NRA or any super pac like this.

The beginning of the end is coming.

But unfortunately many people will still die and be wounded.

The NRA and the gun folk know this, which is why they are trying so hard to hold on.
But we will win.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
9. Thanks for this great reminder
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:00 PM
Apr 2013

It applies to all of our battles, political social personal.
Wars are made up of many battles and many get lost.
Doesn't mean the war is lost.

lastlib

(24,846 posts)
15. Indeed. Mark it down. WE WILL WIN.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:52 PM
Apr 2013

Sadly, more children, and mothers, and fathers will die before we bury the NRA in the dustbin of history. But we WILL win!!

Boomerproud

(8,388 posts)
19. I pray you are right G4A.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:20 PM
Apr 2013

I don't understand how the NRA leadership can look anyone in the eye. I also hope we win this war in our lifetimes.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
34. President Obama, as always, is a lot nicer than me
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:49 PM
Apr 2013

I always thought that anyone allowed to buy a gun should be forced to listen to hours of 911 recordings where people called to report accidental, deadly shootings, especially of/by children. They should have to sit there and listen to some kid screaming he just shot his little brother, until the lesson sinks in. Then maybe they wouldn't even buy a gun after that. At the very least they deserve to have nightmares.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. He has to get the word out anyway he can. Media won't even allow the voice of the POTUS on the air.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:18 PM
Apr 2013

Can you imagine them giving Obama or anyone speaking against the media owners equal time with LePew, Jones or Pratt?

They gave them free air time to spout the lies and are a major part of why people continue to call their politicans to defeat the bills. The NRA have been consistent fighters against gun control, not single event ones.

The media distracts, detracts and misinforms daily on every venue to shut us down.

mehrrh

(233 posts)
50. media facilitators
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:21 AM
Apr 2013

The media would rather keep the issues roiling than present the truths. They give the NRA and LaPierre air time, not challenging their twisted version of facts -- the media did not counter their lies about what was written in the bill.
I was glad to see the president actually use the word "lies" in his furious response to the defeat of the bill.
(Fox News never even covered the message, but that comes as no surprise.)
The media should be ashamed, they fail us time and time again.

Cha

(305,137 posts)
10. Tweet pic of Mark Barden and VP Biden hugging over actions of Senate..
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:03 PM
Apr 2013


TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary

Mark Barden lost his son Daniel at Sandy Hook; today VP Biden said sorry for the actions of the Senate's NRA puppets. https://twitter.com/TheObamaDiary/status/324653081801412610/photo/1

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. Humanity versus the merchants of death. One step at a time. Reid voted to allow a vote next time.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:24 PM
Apr 2013

Last edited Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)

And there will be a next time, and a time after that. We have only begun the road back to sanity after years:




Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Cha

(305,137 posts)
26. This is a thread about the defeat of the Gun Law that the Parents
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:35 PM
Apr 2013

of the Sandy Hook Victims and Survivors of Gun Violence Wanted Passed.

There's many threads where you can post about SS.. this isn't one of them.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
36. I missed the comment, Cha.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:23 PM
Apr 2013

Another attempt at an SS, hijacking?

Thanks for the pic you posted with Biden's hug. Powerful!

Cha

(305,137 posts)
39. You're welcome she. So, is this one..
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:55 PM
Apr 2013

President Obama embraces Nicole Hockley, who lost a son in the Sandy Hook shootings, after he delivered a statement on the Senate’s failure to pass a measure to expanded gun background checkshttp://theobamadiary.com/



Cha

(305,137 posts)
41. ..
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 10:09 PM
Apr 2013

sorry, I forgot to credit who it was before but it's fixed now.

Nicole Hockley who lost her son, Dylan. is being embraced by PBO

CapnSteve

(256 posts)
12. Those damn senators need to walk by pictures of those killed in Sandy Hook everyday...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:42 PM
Apr 2013

...until we vote them out in 2014!

I feel like I am talking to my teenagers (only they actually listen!): actions have consequences.

 

firenewt

(298 posts)
27. Wonder if we can by our members of congress back? Match the NRA/gun industry blood money +
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:43 PM
Apr 2013

10%. Apparently there is nothing we can appeal to other than money - right or wrong don't mean shit.

ellennelle

(614 posts)
13. the truth is going further still
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:46 PM
Apr 2013

i appreciate that he spoke so forcefully about this, but he really needs to go full throttle and tell the whole truth.

this is not about the senators being worried about gun owners; in fact, this defies logic, given he just noted that 90% of americans wanted this bill to pass.

no no; these senators are not afraid of the voters, and they're not afraid of gun owners; they're afraid of the NRA, which represents gun manufacturers, the real culprits in all this.

when he or anyone in congress shows the guts to say that, then the world will sit up and take notice.

don't hold your breath.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
31. We've been saying this around DU for a while now.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:04 PM
Apr 2013

I have to smile whenever I run across an op-ed piece -- on CNN's site, say -- asserting this as if it's something new. It's quite clear that these days the NRA is nothing more than a lobbying organization for the gun manufacturers.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
48. Actually the senators are on the take.
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:20 AM
Apr 2013

If you mean they are afraid of losing campaign contributions from the NRA , you are correct. As for the gun manufacturers, I suspect many would go along with reasonable controls such as gun locks, and gun registration, since it woulld not have a significant effect on their sales in total and the willingness to appear a good citizen might even help their business. No it is not the Smith & Wessons or the Colt companies but rather the makers of overpriced large capacity magazines and bump fire stocks who appeal to the killer ego who would object. We need to fight these magazine and stock manufacturers and the NRA. By the way the largest corporate contributor to the NRA is a manufacturer of high capacity magazines.

OnlinePoker

(5,830 posts)
14. I know this is a serious subject, but...
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:48 PM
Apr 2013

...the first thing I thought about when I saw this picture is that Joe Biden is channeling his inner grumpy cat.

You may now resume the discussion.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
47. Actually I thought Biden looked like..
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 07:10 AM
Apr 2013

he was about to cry, in that photo and the one with Mark Barden.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,600 posts)
21. "EVEN" the media won't go there?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:23 PM
Apr 2013

I'd say there was never a snowball's chance you-know-where that CorpoPravda would go there.

Hekate

(94,488 posts)
28. Obama called them all out: GOP, NRA, the whole murdering cowardly bunch. GOTV 2014!
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:45 PM
Apr 2013

He called them out for the liars they are. He called them out by the political party they are in.

I don't want to read any more shit about primarying Democrats who aren't pure enough or Socialist enough or Green enough, unless they voted against this bill. No more. If the Left lets the Congress go even more to the Right than it already is, we will have only ourselves to blame.

babylonsister

(171,578 posts)
38. He sure did. It was a thing of beauty. And for all
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:48 PM
Apr 2013

those clowns who diss him, they are happily missing on this thread. Thank you!

KT2000

(20,821 posts)
29. it was a powerful speech
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:50 PM
Apr 2013

he expressed his anger very well - and likely represented 90% of the population.

babylonsister

(171,578 posts)
30. Exactly. We know what the people who voted against it were thinking,
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:53 PM
Apr 2013

and it wasn't about their constituents.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
51. "Even" the media?
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 09:17 AM
Apr 2013

The pathetic media are the last people who will Go There. Their jobs depend on them not going there. Dog forbid they should actually practice journalism, instead of propping up the status quo and the corporate power structure.

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