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IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:15 PM Apr 2013

Damn!

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by grantcart (a host of the Barack Obama group).

I spent way too much time whacking at the trolls in DainBramaged's OP in GD about haters. Now I have to wait until later to catch up here, which I will if it takes me forever. No offense, Dain me pal, but I'm done with that thread. Which I appreciate your posting, though. But most of those people are not looking for answers, just a target. They bleed off energy needed for better pursuits.

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Damn! (Original Post) IrishAyes Apr 2013 OP
You are exactly right ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #1
Please do. IrishAyes Apr 2013 #3
... sheshe2 Apr 2013 #6
Thats GOOD! Dang GOOD! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #11
Read some of your posts! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #2
Thank you IrishAyes Apr 2013 #4
Wish I was half as good. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #5
been there, did it, done it sheshe2 Apr 2013 #7
Well it was bugging me last night. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #9
I was just there when I saw I had mail. sheshe2 Apr 2013 #12
Far to many around here wants to keep the neagitve in view. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #13
Thank you IrishAyes! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #8
Dain is a good soul.. Why I remember back in 09 that Cha Apr 2013 #10
I am happy I found this group. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #14
Can you link me to the Good News Group, LFR? Cha Apr 2013 #15
SURE! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #16
Yay, I just subscribed to it so I can't Cha Apr 2013 #17
My pleasure! n/t Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #18
While I appreciate your frustration please don't bring conflicts from other other forums here grantcart Apr 2013 #19
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. You are exactly right ...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:11 PM
Apr 2013

many here at DU are not looking for answers because for anyone paying attention, they are all there ...

Why is SS/CCPI even on the table?


Because it furthers the narrative that President Obama (and his team of advisors) have been carefully building ... THAT THE GOP IS UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE. And it's working ... as evidenced by the polling data, i.e., a plurality of independent voters and gop voters (a solid majority when combined) tag the gop as the party unwilling to compromise.

Why is a Democratic President playing games with SS?


Because this is politics ... But more, there is no chance of SS being cut ... The Left won't allow it; republicans with seniors in their district won't allow it; the President won't allow it without significant revenue increases (which republicans won't give).

Won't this give the gop ammo for 2014 to tarnish Democrats as the party moving to cut SS?


Nope ... At this point, the Democratic legislators (in safe districts) are vowing to fight the CCPI; the one's in close contests are saying, "I'm open to looking at this CCPI thing, if the gop is willing to move on revenue" (again, a safe position because the gop can't/won't move on revenue without encouraging a primary challenge).

What if the gop accepts the CCPI offer?


See above.

Won't President Obama's "betrayal" drive down Democratic support in 2014?


Nope. It will drive down "progressive" support, if DU is any indicator; but "progressives" make a very small, albeit loud, part of the Democratic party ... the party that they do not claim. The Democratic turn-out will be about the same as the 2012 election (probably slightly less because it's a mid-term election and "progressives" might be able to pile off a sliver of Democratic voters).

But, because of gerrymandering (after the 2010 "we're gonna teach them a lesson" exercise), we need the above-mentioned Independents and gop voters to either vote Democratic (not likely), or vote 3rd-Party, or stay home; far more than we need those "progressive" that would even consider staying at home (to re-teach the 2010 lesson).

I could, and probably will, post more on this topic.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
3. Please do.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:16 PM
Apr 2013

I'll look forward to it. Don't wait too long.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
6. ...
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:36 PM
Apr 2013

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
11. Thats GOOD! Dang GOOD!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:10 PM
Apr 2013

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
2. Read some of your posts!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:15 PM
Apr 2013


I think you were doing a good job pointing things out!

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
4. Thank you
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:17 PM
Apr 2013

But I mean this truly; there are so many who are so much better at it.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
5. Wish I was half as good.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:20 PM
Apr 2013

I think I am getting far worse that I am giving.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
7. been there, did it, done it
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:40 PM
Apr 2013

LFR, you are doing just fine there.

I told you that you were brave when you posted on the BOG. Then came home and saw you put it on GD!

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
9. Well it was bugging me last night.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:47 PM
Apr 2013

Add to seeing all the new threads running Obama down when I signed on today...

Something Positive was needed.

Not that it stayed positive for long.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
12. I was just there when I saw I had mail.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:11 PM
Apr 2013

I am having a disagreement with someone there.

Ha! He just told me to go back to the BOG to make my posts, just like someone said to you!

I do believe that this whole site is about democracy, and I sure as hell will post where I please! Duh, we are now not allowing freedom of speech, if we dare stand up to the bashers! I don't think so.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
13. Far to many around here wants to keep the neagitve in view.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:14 PM
Apr 2013

Post positive is counter productive to whatever it is they are going for.

As for what they are wanting is beyond me.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
8. Thank you IrishAyes!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:41 PM
Apr 2013

BOG

Cha

(305,137 posts)
10. Dain is a good soul.. Why I remember back in 09 that
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:04 PM
Apr 2013

he was the one who made an OP pointing out the original BOG started by DeepModemMom. He said something like.. "You know there is a Barack Obama Forum for those interested."

I was interested! This is BOG3. And, the best one yet.. much easier to keep out those who don't like the Mission Statement.

thanks IrishAyes

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
14. I am happy I found this group.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 10:20 PM
Apr 2013

Between this group and the Good News Group. I feel like I am in the old DU again.

Being able to talk with like minds does wonders for your mental state!

Cha

(305,137 posts)
15. Can you link me to the Good News Group, LFR?
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 11:02 PM
Apr 2013

I posted on One Grass Root's OP when she first asked if we would like one.. and haven't seen anything else about.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
16. SURE!
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 11:05 PM
Apr 2013

Cha

(305,137 posts)
17. Yay, I just subscribed to it so I can't
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 11:12 PM
Apr 2013

lose it!

thank you, Lady Freedom Returns!

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
18. My pleasure! n/t
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 11:13 PM
Apr 2013

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
19. While I appreciate your frustration please don't bring conflicts from other other forums here
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 11:23 PM
Apr 2013

It doesn't fit the SOP.

We are here to support the President, not to exacerbate divisions in our party.

There is a lot of frustration right now because certain elements of the budget have been focused on.

Get the facts and join the discussion in DU or take a break and enjoy your friends here but let's follow our President's example by being tolerant, patient and understanding.

Thanks for your understanding.
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