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sheshe2

(87,522 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:04 PM Feb 2016

Knockout: Why Obama Wants a Supreme Court Fight and How Republicans Blew It Before It Starts



Spandan Chakrabarti | February 14, 2016

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The funny part is that the President doesn't even have to nominate a consensus candidate like Srinivasan to paint the Republicans into a corner. Republicans have already helpfully handed the President all he needs to paint their opposition to his eventual nominee as political and not substantive with their incredibly shortsighted to demand right away that President Obama stay away from nominating a new Justice.

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Harry Reid, I am certain, has other tricks up his sleeve to frustrate the Republican leadership by essentially ending the Senate's business until the President's nominee gets a vote. He could use executive sessions (the motion is non-debatable) to halt business, block unanimous consent requests for short breaks or recesses, and pull every parliamentary maneuver to make Republicans go on record. Even worse for the GOP, by constantly asking for procedural votes on the nomination, he can force Republicans to show up and be on the Senate floor.

And no Democratic Senator will pay a political price for standing with Reid and President Obama on this. It will be like the GOP's government shutdown, part deux. Democrats will coalesce around the Constitutional principle of giving the president's nominee a vote, and Republicans will be seen as the party of destruction, endangering the very operation of government itself. And this time, there won't be a malfunctioning website to go after when it's done.

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We are also just one justice away from the Supreme Court no longer holding the notion that money is speech. We are one justice away from restoring the Voting Rights Act's protections for minorities.

All of these issues - women's right to reproductive care without interference from their states or their bosses, gun safety, money in politics, voting rights - play in favor of a blue electorate, if only they come out to vote. A high profile fight over the President's nominee to replace Scalia - especially one in which Republicans are seen as political obstructionists rather than conscientious objectors - will insure those voters come out. And they will come out to punish the Republicans even if - perhaps more accurately, when - the President eventually wins the fight to seat his nominee. In other words, Republicans may end up with the worst of both worlds: President Obama's appointee replacing Scalia, and a 16-year Democratic rein in the White House.



Read More: http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/2/14/why-obama-wants-scotus-fight

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Knockout: Why Obama Wants a Supreme Court Fight and How Republicans Blew It Before It Starts (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2016 OP
K & R Iliyah Feb 2016 #1
He'll put the screws to them and they won't even know it until after the fact, and he will have shraby Feb 2016 #2
Even with their obstruction he has run circles around them sheshe2 Feb 2016 #3
It will be a sight to behold. A work of art. shraby Feb 2016 #4
He is absolutely the best brer cat Feb 2016 #5
It will be check... sheshe2 Feb 2016 #9
I believe it was Biden who warned, "Don't play poker with this man." sarge43 Feb 2016 #6
It is fun to play with your toys. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #11
Sure hope this Spanden knows what he's talking about. lindysalsagal Feb 2016 #7
The Supreme Court does not hold the notion skepticscott Feb 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #16
Oh, this is too good. blackspade Feb 2016 #10
and..............if the Democrats show some backbone and back President Obama on this 100% INdemo Feb 2016 #12
40 Years Of Judicial Tyranny Ending scottie55 Feb 2016 #13
Hope so. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #15
+1 Kokonoe Feb 2016 #17
This is THE BARACK OBAMA GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #21
Please forgive my rudeness. Kokonoe Feb 2016 #53
Really? Cary Feb 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #20
It is okay, Cary. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #33
Thanks Cary Feb 2016 #38
Thank you so very much for... sheshe2 Feb 2016 #19
You are correct. Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #22
Thank you. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #25
Thank you. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #34
The RePUKElicans are playing with FIRE with this one. GO OBAMA !! RBInMaine Feb 2016 #23
They're flying right into the Spider's Web NBachers Feb 2016 #24
It is my sincere hope that this the case Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #26
My sincere hope as well. Please make it so! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #30
And just to think that this soon we have the possibility of cleaning Duckfan Feb 2016 #27
I started thinking last night: we almost can't lose AllyCat Feb 2016 #28
yep we win the White House and the SCOTUS FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #29
If this is his play then Obama is playing chess d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #31
They are not even playing checkers. 3catwoman3 Feb 2016 #42
Must be painful d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #52
Let it be true! pscot Feb 2016 #32
And aren't we lucky to also have a sitting Senator, running for the "Democratic" nomination who... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #35
Lol~ sheshe2 Feb 2016 #36
!!! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #39
Oh Good you made this into an OP, she.. I posted it in my thread in Hill's Group last night.. Cha Feb 2016 #37
Sorry, sheshe2 Feb 2016 #41
Now THIS is a legacy issue! yallerdawg Feb 2016 #40
It certainly is a legacy issue, yallerdawg. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #48
I has a happy JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #43
I has a happy too! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #44
On more than one occassion awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #45
Thank you for that awoke. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #47
Thank you, she awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #49
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #46
There's an LA Times article today suggesting that O might shoot for the moon in his nomination.... Hekate Feb 2016 #50
Scoot over on that sofa. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #51

shraby

(21,946 posts)
2. He'll put the screws to them and they won't even know it until after the fact, and he will have
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:54 PM
Feb 2016

his nominee on the court. That's how he does things.

sheshe2

(87,522 posts)
3. Even with their obstruction he has run circles around them
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:01 PM
Feb 2016

For seven years.

Thanks shraby, he is that good!

lindysalsagal

(22,380 posts)
7. Sure hope this Spanden knows what he's talking about.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

Another round of GOP/ Obama rope-a-dope.

No-drama Obama knows exactly when to make his move. No wonder they despise him so much.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
8. The Supreme Court does not hold the notion
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

that "money is speech". It never has, and I defy you to show otherwise.

They have held that the ability to raise and spend money is inextricably linked with the constitutionally protected right to disseminate political messages, and that a restriction on the former amounts to an (unconstitutional) restriction on the latter.

Response to skepticscott (Reply #8)

INdemo

(7,020 posts)
12. and..............if the Democrats show some backbone and back President Obama on this 100%
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:24 PM
Feb 2016

We will retake the Senate because voters will see the Democrats are finally standing up to the Rpukes.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Kokonoe

(2,485 posts)
53. Please forgive my rudeness.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:28 PM
Feb 2016

The truth can only be absorbed in drops.
Lets give our elected progressives every opportunity to shape the future with the 360 plus days at their disposal.

President Obama will balance the opinions of every American official to nominate a great leader, as it should be.

Response to Cary (Reply #18)

sheshe2

(87,522 posts)
19. Thank you so very much for...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:10 PM
Feb 2016
This assumes Dems with spines who will fight.

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This has not been my experience over the last 2+ decades. They have been too busy worshipping at the altar of bipartisanship.



Coming into the Barack Obama to drop that. Yup, Obama is spineless! Dems are spineless! Spread your spineless crap in GDP, you will be adored. Why are you all on Democratic Underground when you despise Democrats.

If memory serves, I blocked you once and you asked me to reinstate you so you could apologize. I did.

Me, I actually appreciate my President. Why? He has been abused and disrespected from both sides of the aisle. BOTH! The filth that has been tossed at him, so effing disrespectful. Yet he carries on despite that. He has given us so many amazing things. Sad no one gives a shit about that. Do I need to post the list????? It is pretty long.

Please delete your post now. I will not reinstate you again.

sheshe2

(87,522 posts)
25. Thank you.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:16 PM
Feb 2016

Please delete all yours posts here.

They are so hurtful to our group. One safe place we have to go.

NBachers

(18,132 posts)
24. They're flying right into the Spider's Web
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:15 PM
Feb 2016

I can't wait to see the Arachnobama advancing on each of these flailing, screaming little flies as he eats them alive in front of us.

hellllp meeeee! helllllllp meeeeeee!!!

sheshe2

(87,522 posts)
30. My sincere hope as well. Please make it so!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016
We are one justice away from restoring the Voting Rights Act's protections for minorities.

All of these issues - women's right to reproductive care without interference from their states or their bosses, gun safety, money in politics, voting rights - play in favor of a blue electorate, if only they come out to vote.
A high profile fight over the President's nominee to replace Scalia - especially one in which Republicans are seen as political obstructionists rather than conscientious objectors - will insure those voters come out. And they will come out to punish the Republicans even if - perhaps more accurately, when - the President eventually wins the fight to seat his nominee. In other words, Republicans may end up with the worst of both worlds: President Obama's appointee replacing Scalia, and a 16-year Democratic rein in the White House.



Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
27. And just to think that this soon we have the possibility of cleaning
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

up some of the most disgusting white-wing rulings in our lifetime--without having to wait for another president. It's a late Christmas present, but I'll take it.

It's also wonderful to see the President tell McTurtle and his ilk F-you.

AllyCat

(17,105 posts)
28. I started thinking last night: we almost can't lose
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:36 PM
Feb 2016

Even if PBO does what the GOP wishes (and I hope he doesn't) and DOESN'T nominate a successor to Scalia...there are a lot of important cases coming up that would, at best, end up in a 4-4 split and many if not all would likely or possibly go 5-3 in favor of the people, not the conservatives.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
31. If this is his play then Obama is playing chess
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:52 PM
Feb 2016

while the cons are playing checkers. Glad this man is our president. Hopefully he nominates a flaming liberal and then the court could reverse its Citizen's United decision.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)
35. And aren't we lucky to also have a sitting Senator, running for the "Democratic" nomination who...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:00 AM
Feb 2016

can use his powers of persuasion on his opposition colleagues to give us a preview of his awesome influence. He seems to imply that unlike Obama & Hillary, he has some special sauce that would allow him to win them over.

Cha

(305,435 posts)
37. Oh Good you made this into an OP, she.. I posted it in my thread in Hill's Group last night..
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:08 AM
Feb 2016

I thought it was a brilliant take from the People's View(Spandan).. on what's happening right now, and how the rwingers are making it too easy for President Obama to paint them into a corner.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=47590

Thank you!



sheshe2

(87,522 posts)
41. Sorry,
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016

Missed yours last night, Cha.

Agreed, it was a brilliant take and come hell or high water he will get this done.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
40. Now THIS is a legacy issue!
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

President Obama and Harry Reid can end the conservative bent of the Supreme Court for at least a generation!

This is a fight worth having!

It's like my Republican Senator Shelby is advertising - Obama wants to remove the Second Amendment and take away all the guns God has so graciously given us ( ) - and we can't do that without at least 5 liberal Godless justices!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
45. On more than one occassion
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 05:24 PM
Feb 2016

I have underestimated him and questioned his tactics. I wouldn't bet against him again.

Hekate

(94,690 posts)
50. There's an LA Times article today suggesting that O might shoot for the moon in his nomination....
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:54 PM
Feb 2016

If the GOP had played it straight and not like thugs, Obama would have chosen a moderate such as Sri Srinivasan. But since the GOP has announced they intend to reject everyone, the author of the article speculated that Obama might throw caution to the winds and do a recess appointment of a genuine liberal.

Hey, that works for me.

Whatever happens, this particular segment of the campaign season is turning into premium spectator sport.

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