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Oh Holy hell on the highway (Original Post) The Polack MSgt Feb 2016 OP
Cute. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #1
I don't KNOW shit The Polack MSgt Feb 2016 #2
OK, let me spell it out. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #3
He called you didn't listen. End of story. Cha Feb 2016 #5
+1 Lisa D Feb 2016 #7
BS is the divisive one.. he's been bashing President Obama for years. Don't deny it. Cha Feb 2016 #4
And, of course, BS fans are denying it.. there's proof all over the place. Here's a tweet on it.. Cha Feb 2016 #6
Remember, Sanders is not really a Democrat liberal N proud Feb 2016 #8
How a 25 year Capitol hill veteran The Polack MSgt Feb 2016 #10
Exactly, he is saying what he needs to for support liberal N proud Feb 2016 #11
People believe what they need JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #12
So glad this is getting some traction. ucrdem Feb 2016 #9

PatrickforO

(15,109 posts)
1. Cute.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:04 PM
Feb 2016

But a bit divisive. And a bit disingenuous, I'm afraid. That isn't what Bernie was saying. You KNOW that.

The Polack MSgt

(13,425 posts)
2. I don't KNOW shit
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:24 PM
Feb 2016

I believe that he is intentionally distancing himself from the President in ways that leave him a degree of plausible deniability if he ever gets called on it

Walking the tight rope - trying to attract enough Obama haters without driving away too many Democrats

PatrickforO

(15,109 posts)
3. OK, let me spell it out.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

I was one of millions of people in 08 who volunteered for Obama's campaign.

Most of us thought Obama was the next FDR.

We helped him win decisively and then stood ready to hit the streets when he started using the bully pulpit for stuff like single payer healthcare.

He did not use the bully pulpit enough. He didn't trumpet his accomplishments enough. He did NOT activate the millions of Americans who joined him and got engaged. Rather we were just left wallowing in the sea of, "well, now I've won and I don't need you anymore."

Which makes me sick, not only for Obama's sake because he's been a good, if not great, president, but because of the GOP/Fox 'news' assholes who have denigrated his very humanity, as well as his presidency which will go down in history as successful.

So sergeant, we stood ready to hit the streets and he didn't call upon us. He did not lead us to make the changes I'm still convinced he knows need to be made. Now we have Obamacare which was a GOP corporate welfare program for insurance companies dreamed up by the Heritage Foundation, and the TPP which is the oligarchs' play to finally take over governance from many of the nation states. Read it if you don't believe me. It's a wader, but I'm telling the truth here.

That is what Bernie is talking about, and what many hundreds of people like me have been saying.

So now you do know shit.

Cha

(305,387 posts)
4. BS is the divisive one.. he's been bashing President Obama for years. Don't deny it.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:08 AM
Feb 2016
Jonathan Alter
✔ ‎@jonathanalter
Hillary is right. Bernie trashed Obama's policies routinely to me and other reporters, especially in 2011-2013 period.
5:48 PM - 11 Feb 2016
677 677 Retweets 519 519 likes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110745919

Cha

(305,387 posts)
6. And, of course, BS fans are denying it.. there's proof all over the place. Here's a tweet on it..
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:11 AM
Feb 2016
Jonathan Alter
✔ ‎@jonathanalter
Hillary is right. Bernie trashed Obama's policies routinely to me and other reporters, especially in 2011-2013 period.
5:48 PM - 11 Feb 2016
677 677 Retweets 519 519 likes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110745919

BS wanted President Obama primaried in 2012. End of story.

Mahalo TPMSgt!

liberal N proud

(60,945 posts)
8. Remember, Sanders is not really a Democrat
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:41 AM
Feb 2016

Or at least he was not a Democrat until he needed to be to run for President.

The Bernie Bros will tell you that he is the most honest and most genuine candidate but he is deceiving them on many fronts.

The Polack MSgt

(13,425 posts)
10. How a 25 year Capitol hill veteran
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:54 AM
Feb 2016

Can be considered a non-politician or an outsider is curious at the very least.

Here is what I believe about Senator Sanders' recent "more in sadness than in anger" actions in regard to the President - It's a cynical attempt to harvest the fruits of 8 years of Obama hate while keeping his hands relatively clean.

He soft talks to both sides to allow our imagination to fill in the blanks with whatever motives you believe are appropriate but just off the top of my head Senator sanders has

Written a cover a blurb on a book critical to the President called "Buyers remorse"

Said that he regrets that Obama wasn't opposed in the '12 primary

Aligned himself with a man who said that "Obama Is A Rockefeller Republican In Blackface"

This is not illegal or even surprising - Triangulating to get support from as many factions as possible is POLITICS. Senator Sanders is a successful politician. No one gets reelected for that often without knowing what they're doing

Just quit telling me that he arrived riding a winged steed without the mud of battle on his shiny silver armor.

liberal N proud

(60,945 posts)
11. Exactly, he is saying what he needs to for support
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:44 PM
Feb 2016

The free college education blows me away, to think there is a snowballs chance in hell of that ever happening in this country is nuts.

Not until there is a wholesale change in the mentality of this nation, and with the Trumps and Cruz' of the world, it is going the other way.

It's is a pipe dream at best.

JustAnotherGen

(33,544 posts)
12. People believe what they need
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

They need to believe it - so that's their story and they are sticking to it.

ucrdem

(15,703 posts)
9. So glad this is getting some traction.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:33 AM
Feb 2016

Sanders has made a career out of bashing Democrats using whatever RW memes are at hand and is rarely held to account for it, here or elsewhere. And no one can say that Bernie doesn't have it coming as he's been bashing the Clintons since he launched his campaign.

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