Environmentalists Praise Wildlife Measures in Trans-Pacific Trade Pact

[Cha]

The New York Times
✔ ‎@nytimes
Environmentalists are praising wildlife measures in the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal http://nyti.ms/1hlu7hS
6:56 AM - 5 Oct 2015
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"WASHINGTON — Environmentalists praised wildlife protections included in thesweeping Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal announced Monday, calling them groundbreaking.

They said the pact would strengthen international environmental enforcement agreements and could go a long way toward diminishing the illegal trade in certain plants and animals.

Those measures represent a major breakthrough on one of the most divisive issues in the contentious trade negotiations, as well as a significant victory for the Obama administration, which had pushed for strong environmental provisions against the objections of most other countries involved in the 12-nation deal.

"The provisions in the Trans-Pacific Partnership go beyond what we have seen in other trade agreements,” said David McCauley, senior vice president for policy and government affairs at the World Wildlife Fund, which was among several advocacy groups that had worked closely with the administration on the final language. “We see this as a very big deal.”

MOre..
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/business/environmentalists-praise-wildlife-measures-in-trans-pacific-trade-pact.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0


The White House
✔ ‎@WhiteHouse Big win for U.S. workers: @POTUS just secured a trade deal that helps the middle class. http://go.wh.gov/trade #TPP
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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/10/05/on-tpp/

This is the BOG so please leave your negative attitude at the door. Mahalo~

[A Little Weird]

1. I think the jury's still out

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/10/05/3709061/tpp-agreement-reached-environmental-concerns-remain/

Officials from Oceana, the Humane Society, the World Wildlife Fund and World Animal Protection all told HuffPost they had not endorsed the TPP pact and are waiting to see the final agreement before rendering a verdict, although the White House quoted all of these groups praising elements of it.

[Cha]

2. No. the jury is not still out. "Environmentalists are praising wildlife measures.. " BS is wrong

the TPP.

[sheshe2]

3. Wait What?

Environmentalists Praise Wildlife Measures in Trans-Pacific Trade Pact

"The provisions in the Trans-Pacific Partnership go beyond what we have seen in other trade agreements,” said David McCauley, senior vice president for policy and government affairs at the World Wildlife Fund, which was among several advocacy groups that had worked closely with the administration on the final language. “We see this as a very big deal.”

No Cha. You must be wrong. Everyone at DU told me so. They told me PBO is screwing us over. He is protecting the 1%!!!!! There was a thread at the top of the page saying this would kill the 99%.I guess they know more facts than we do. Some at DU must be more privileged with insider information. They know the FACTS!

Ha!

Your post!!!!!



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Damn that Obama, why does he hate us so.

[Cha]

5. "This isn't your mom's or dad's trade deal. President Obama's trade agreement would benefit American

workers. #TPP"

Bernie and his fans needs to keep up, she!



They always say President Barack Obama is "screwing us over".. that lost its potency a long time ago.

John Kerry
✔ ‎@JohnKerry
#TPP will have immediate, positive effects for US economy, will shape our econ & strategic relationships in Asia-Pacific long into future.
4:45 AM - 5 Oct 2015
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I trust the President and SOS John Kerry exponentially more than I do Bernie Sanders.

BOG

[sheshe2]

10. Rinse Lather Repeat

They always say President Barack Obama is "screwing us over".. that lost its potency a long time ago.

[MBS]

35. " " " " n/t

[sheshe2]

4. Kick

[shenmue]

16. Yep

[djean111]

6. I see that this is the spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down, the medicine go down....

since not a word of the TPP can be changed now, I guess increasing the cost of medicine worldwide is quite alright, because there are wildlife protections, right? I sincerely doubt that the wildlife protections will be vigorously upheld, but the cost of medicine will continue to climb.

Well played, TPP!

[sheshe2]

7. You are posting in OUR GROUP!

THIS IS THE BARACK OBAMA GROUP.

Would you please show some respect for the rules of this board.

Delete or I sure as hell will block you.

[ucrdem]

8. djean funny you mention medicine because thanks to Australia's insistence

US pharma companies didn't get the 12-year embargo on generic drugs they originally wanted; the final agreement includes a hybrid embargo of 5-8 years, per the wires:

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/how-australia-became-a-winner-out-of-the-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement/story-fnu2pycd-1227559309657

[sheshe2]

12. You

[SleeplessinSoCal]

21. And may lose some GOP votes over this slap in the toes of Big Pharma

Listening to Charlie Rose round table discussion and get the impression the Republicans are willing to vote to protect patent rights overseas. They still soak Medicare recipients and the GOP will continue to enable them and likely make millions off of their lack of legislatiin.

I appreciate all good news coming out of this contentious bill. There will be more I feel sure.

[Cha]

9. There is so much more for American Workers.. and saving Wildlife is a big plus for our Planet.

TPP is going to benefit American Workers.. I don't care what Bernie Sanders has to say about it.

[ucrdem]

11. It's an amazing accomplishment Cha. . .

another amazing accomplishment!

p.s. here's a really interesting interview with PBO I heard this afternoon on NPR:

The full interview: President Obama defends the TPP
Interview by Kai Ryssdal (Marketplace)
Tuesday, October 6, 2015 - 12:03

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/president-obama-talks-trade/full-interview-president-obama-defends-tpp

?itok=biCvxqYq

[Cha]

14. Thank you so much for this, ucr! I know you have been talking about the reality of President

Obama's TPP for quite awhile now..'

And, here it is! I will listen to this soon!

[sheshe2]

17. I will listen tomorrow.

Thanks

[Cha]

20. Aloha, she` Here's 6 min Vid of the President talking about it, too.. I've highlighted his major

points about the benefits of this TPP deal..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1102&pid=31235

[Cha]

19. Here's a Vid of 6 minutes of President Obama talking about it..

"Knocking down barriers.. and helping American Business people.. "

"American companies are not going to disadvantaged"

"Sets the highest Environmental standards in history.."

"Unlike past agreements on the environment.. these standards are actually enforceable.."

"If countries aren't abiding by them.. they don't get the benefits of selling to the United States."

"And.. we are writing the rules for the Global economy.. not China"

The President: "As I've said repeatedly.. I would only sign this if I could be absolutely sure it was good for American Workers, good for American businesses, good for American Farmers, good for American ranchers, good for American manufacturers,.. we have met that standard in this agreement.. "

".. step forward, but there's going to be a long healthy process of discussion. and debate.. before this ever comes to an actual vote.."

"Posted on the White House website so everyone can get a look at it.. not just Congress but the American People.. "

"... Months before this actually comes up for a vote.. "

".. Plenty of time to go over it.. "

".. I expect there will be some misinformation that is propagated around this.. "

".. And, it will be an enormous achievement.. for us to make sure that 40% of the World's economy is operating under rules that don't hurt us.."

".. making sure American business, workers, and Made in America.. are getting a fair shot.."

He's thanking ".. everybody around this table. "a diverse constituency.. a lot of different groups are represented.. thank all them for their work.. to getting us to this point.. "

"..now let's get across the finish line.."

".. I expect there will be some misinformation that is propagated around this.."

You can bet your bottom dollar on that President Obama! Can anyone say "fundraisers" on misinformation?!

ucr~

[sheshe2]

13. Thanks for that....

Ha. I wanted to play for awhile.

[Cha]

15. I know the feelling, she..

[treestar]

40. So we need to let the other countries continue the 18,000 taxes?

On our products? To keep it more difficult to sell our products abroad?

[William769]

18. Kick & recommended.

[Cha]

23. Thank you, Bill.

[betsuni]

22. K&R!

[Iliyah]

24. K & R

[Thinkingabout]

25. K & R

I haven't read it yet so I don't have any reason to be against this one, our president doing his duty as president, good for President Obama.

[brer cat]

26. Thanks for the thread, Cha.

ODS seems to be very strong when it comes to the TPP. The knee-jerk opposition before the terms were worked out is pretty telling. A very good example from the article in your link:

Environmentalists had criticized the Obama administration after a draft of the environmental chapter of the trade agreement, made public in January 2014, appeared to signal that the United States was retreating on a variety of environmental measures in order to advance a trade deal that has been a top priority for President Obama.

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But the final deal includes that requirement, along with new enforcement methods. It also places new limits on wildlife trafficking and subsidies for illegal fishing. {emphasis mine}

[Cha]

28. I knew it was knee jerk and it still is.. bernie fundraises off it.. here's a Vid of the President

speaking on it.. and some notes of the highlights I took..

"Knocking down barriers.. and helping American Business people.. "

"American companies are not going to disadvantaged"

"Sets the highest Environmental standards in history.."

"Unlike past agreements on the environment.. these standards are actually enforceable.."

"If countries aren't abiding by them.. they don't get the benefits of selling to the United States."

"And.. we are writing the rules for the Global economy.. not China"

The President: "As I've said repeatedly.. I would only sign this if I could be absolutely sure it was good for American Workers, good for American businesses, good for American Farmers, good for American ranchers, good for American manufacturers,.. we have met that standard in this agreement.. "

".. step forward, but there's going to be a long healthy process of discussion. and debate.. before this ever comes to an actual vote.."

"Posted on the White House website so everyone can get a look at it.. not just Congress but the American People.. "

"... Months before this actually comes up for a vote.. "

".. Plenty of time to go over it.. "

".. I expect there will be some misinformation that is propagated around this.. "

".. And, it will be an enormous achievement.. for us to make sure that 40% of the World's economy is operating under rules that don't hurt us.."

".. making sure American business, workers, and Made in America.. are getting a fair shot.."

He's thanking ".. everybody around this table. "a diverse constituency.. a lot of different groups are represented.. thank all them for their work.. to getting us to this point.. "

"..now let's get across the finish line.."

".. I expect there will be some misinformation that is propagated around this.."

You can bet your bottom dollar on that President Obama! Can anyone say "fundraisers" on misinformation?!

Thanks brer cat~

[ismnotwasm]

27. Holy shit that's impressive

K&R

[yallerdawg]

29. Obama confident Congress will approve trade pact

WASHINGTON — President Obama told business leaders Tuesday he is confident that Congress will approve a massive Pacific Rim trade agreement because it is a good deal for U.S. producers and consumers.

"I'm also confident that the case to be made for why this is good for America is sufficiently strong, that ultimately we're going to get this done," Obama said after a meeting with the business leaders at the U.S. Agriculture Department.

The proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership will eliminate or reduce foreign tariffs on some 18,000 products, notably agriculture exports, Obama said. For example, he said, Japan slaps a 38% tax on American beef, and Malaysia has a 30% tax on U.S. auto parts.

Obama said the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership — which ranges from Canada to Chile to Australia to Japan — includes labor and environmental requirements from all countries, making it harder to move jobs around. If countries don't abide by the labor and environmental standards, he said, "then they don’t get the benefits of selling to the United States under the terms of this agreement."

Preparing to sell the deal in the months ahead, Obama said he and his aides "are going to be talking not just to members of Congress, but the American public and various constituencies, and governors, and mayors who are represented here about why this is good for their communities."

While Obama said, "I suspect that there will be some misinformation that is propagated around this, as there usually is in these debates," he predicted the agreement will ultimately be ratified.

"It will be an enormous achievement for us to be able to make sure that 40% of the world’s economy is operating under rules that don’t hurt us," Obama said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/06/obama-trans-pacific-partnership-agriculture-department-tom-vilsack/73447786/

[Cha]

31. "I suspect that there will be some misinformation that is propagated around this, as there usually i

is in these debates,"

Yeah, like massive fundraising off of "misinformation".. I can see that.

I highlighted that in this post, too, yallerdawg..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1102&pid=31235

Thank you!

[leftofcool]

30. This is impressive. Thanks for posting this.

[shenmue]

32. It's good news

[Cha]

36. Thank you, leftofcool..

[mcar]

33. Interesting

Thanks for this cha.

[Lisa D]

34. K&R

[okasha]

37. There is a lot in TPP that I like.

Congress still has to ratify it, though, so we still don't have anything like the final form. Expect negotiations to continue into Hillary's Presidency.

[Walk away]

38. I hate the fact that Bernie has demonized the TTP and so many people blindly follow him...

without getting all of the facts. It's also pretty annoying that Bernie doesn't seem to get the fact that there was going to have to be some compromise in order to get this done.
President Obama is the President of the entire United States, not just a couple of stadiums full of "Progressive Socialists" or a few thousand internet trolls.

[Cha]

39. Thank you for that, Walk away! So True!