What Obama critics on DU don't get.

[Kath1]

He was able to get elected - twice!

We could all have our perfect progressive/liberal candidates that we love, but what good is it if they can't win an election?

And he has been excellent on the issues - protecting contraception and a woman's right to choose, the environment, immigration reform, health care, gay rights, equality......etc.

He promised change and he kept his promise in my opinion. Glad I voted for him twice. And I think he is only getting warmed up for these last two years! I can tell because the right wingers have been frothing at the mouth lately!

[freshwest]

1. We better enjoy him before he's left office. Looking forward to his return from Hawaii!

[Cha]

10. Aloha fresh..

@ObamaHawaii: Beautiful Kailua sunrise on the last morning of President Obama’s vacation. Looks like a nice day ahead.. It was!

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/01/03/chat-away-486/

[brer cat]

13. Rub it in, Cha.

We have grey clouds and cold temps.

[Cha]

37. Sorry, it's so cold in

Georgia, brer cat!

[treestar]

18. Awesome photo !

cha

[Cha]

38. Aloha treestar!

[nirvana555]

2. Thank you for posting. I absolutely agree. I'm shocked sometimes that folks think

he can just wave a wand and and do what he wants when he wants. He has been excellent on the issues.

[Thinkingabout]

17. K & R

[Cha]

3. Brilliant OP, Kath.. Mahalo and Thank you! Of course I'm glad I voted for him.. and even better

I'd do it again!

[Kath1]

31. Thank you, Cha!

?1348237176



VERY proud of my votes for Obama!!!!

[Cha]

34. First Lady Michelle and the President leaving Pearl Harbor and saying goodbye to Hawaii..

The President and First Lady leave Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in Honolulu to return to DC

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/01/04/early-bird-rise-and-shine-10/


Home

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/01/04/home-19/

[freshwest]

61. Just caught that beautiful pic. Look at those hugs!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

4. When I read what Republicans are doing all over the country

It seems miraculous that he got elected at all. There's virtually no liberal voices anywhere in the media. Citizens United is gonna hammer Dems from now til doomsday.

I appreciate Obama and he never ceases to amaze and confound his enemies. I'm very glad he's on my side.

[Cha]

5. I'm glad he's on my side too, SiSC.. he tries his very best to get the best deal for as possible. Of

course that's not going to work out for everyone.. but, it would be much worse down the road when the gopbaqggers take over Congress. That's something the critics do not take into account, either.

And, I think it was a miracle Obama got elected Prez.. with all the US media drumming manufactured "news" into the airwaves 24/7.. designed to fit their corporate agenda.

Happy New Year, SleeplessinSoCal!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

35. My very best wishes to you too Cha

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Were it not for you and this group, DU would be a very cold place.

[Cha]

36. ..

[Thinkingabout]

19. Obama was elected twice because we went to VOTE, he is a good president, he may not have

satisfied everyone's expectations on getting all of their issues passed but we should not expect to get everything "we want". It is like handing a kid a toy catalog and telling them to pick out everything they want and they do and accidently one item was not presented and the kid wails and hates Santa because all the things they listed was not delivered and then refusing to play with the other toys.

[lovemydog]

6. Yup. He was elected twice.

I'm glad I voted for him. Also proud I've voted in every election for the most progressive available candidate ever since he took office.

He's a tireless advocate for us. I don't mind some of the criticisms. Wages must improve for people to start feeling the effects of a stronger economy.

As for the more histrionic attacks here, it says more about the critic than the President. It's dirt off my shoulder.

[Hekate]

7. Here's to a better New Year. I'm very interested in seeing how much our guy can....

...achieve and how loudly the RW can howl!

Of course there will be some howling here, too, but no matter.

[Cha]

11. Aloha to you, Hekate

@ObamaHawaii: Beautiful Kailua sunrise on the last morning of President Obama’s vacation. Looks like a nice day ahead.. It was!

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/01/03/chat-away-486/

[MadDAsHell]

8. This is also why I question people's descriptions of America in 2014...

From some posters' hyperbole you'd think race relations today are worse than the 50's, that white people don't care, and that we've got hundreds of African Americans being publicly lynched in the streets daily. Never mind that every incident of white on black crime makes major national headlines, or that in the past 6 years we've overwhelmingly nominated an African-American man for president (with much vitriol against his white primary opponent I might add), and then overwhelmingly elected him twice.

[hue]

9. In the face of stupidity & an obstructionist Congress our POTUS has achieved much! K&R

So many want instant gratification! Being productive while battling the 1% machine is remarkable!!
I am grateful each day for Pres. Obama! Had a Repuke been elected it would have been far, far worse!!

[Cha]

12. "Being productive while battling the 1% machine is remarkable!!" Well said, hue. :)

[freshwest]

48. Thanks, hue!

[upaloopa]

14. You don't get that he is raming TPP down our

throats which negates everything you posted. Life is nice with blinders on isn't it?
Or are your glasses rose colored?
I don't get people like you? Why can't you see all of reality? Why only look at the sunny side of the street? You know we can't make proper decisions unless we include all of the facts even the smelly ones too.
My guess is you so want to believe that guy who ran in 2008 that we all voted for and all that change we hoped for became reality. Well it didn't and that is baring witness to the truth. Sure he had a tough time and accomplished a lot of good but this new trade deal is ten thousand steps backward.

[Fred Sanders]

16. The sunny side of the street has more light?

[treestar]

20. This is the BOG

GD is for posts like yours, so take it there.

The trade deal could be very good for the economy, some people use it for their ODS and expect agreement, because they know it's hard for most people to talk about these things and they can demand no questions.

[upaloopa]

22. Why do you need a BOG? If all you do is ignore the negative? I don't get it? This should

not go to latest threads if you only want people who agree with you. This should be called the "The Only Rosy BOG"

[treestar]

23. There are many groups on DU

check your left side panel.

Do you even know why you are against this agreement? Is it because you are looking for some support for your already existing dislike of President Obama, and do you have anything better than generalized and unsupported claims that it will cost jobs, etc. If so, start it up in DU where you will find a lively debate of conclusions already existing.

[upaloopa]

26. Look you don't even know me. Your ignorant assumptions don't deserve respect. I was invited to

both inaugurations. I got the Obama Family White House Christmas cards every year. You don't get those hating Obama.

I care about this country, our democracy and our people. Ignoring reality is sticking your head in the sand. But I guess you created a place where that isn't important.

[treestar]

27. This is a non sequitur reply

You have said nothing detailed about the TPP and made no support for its alleged disasters in this post.

[1StrongBlackMan]

55. LOL ...

It has been a while since I've been in the BOG. That exchange made it all worthwhile.

Thanks!

[sheshe2]

39. hey upaloopa.

Look you don't even know me. Your ignorant assumptions don't deserve respect.

Wow, we don't even know you? Sadly we do. Yet you are the one that calls us ignorant and undeserving of respect.

You know you are posting in the BOG. You have been told that several times here, yet you keep doubling down, why is that? Are you so disrespectful of rules that you would come to our group and trample on them and call out members. That is called bulling and I do not like that one damn bit. You want to take us on, go for it. You can find us posting daily there, in GD on GD. We then are fair game.

Until then show some manners. You just do not go into another's home and wipe your dirty boots on their furniture. That is beyond rude.

If you have a problem with the BOG being Reced into GD take it up with Skinner, you know him correct? He runs this whole joint. Ask him how he feels about it~ go for it. Lol~ others have and I know how he answered.

I have heard many times on GD that is a badge of honor to get banned from this group. Many say they will post rude things here so they will get banned. So here is your badge. See you in GD. Trust me, we are a force to be reckoned with. We will never go quietly into the night.

Bye.

[1StrongBlackMan]

56. But he/she got the President Obama Family Xmas card! ...

every year! ... Really she/he did!

[sheshe2]

58. Holy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

S**T! They got the Christmas card. They are so special.

That gives them the right to come to the BOG and take a crap. Well they got my seal of approval as a bully here. They can go hither and cry to their buddies that they got banned from the BOG. They love it. In GD we are considered BOG SCUM on a Democratic board for supporting this President. Our first black president and we need a group to support him. How sad is that.

1Strong, please stop by more often.

[1StrongBlackMan]

59. I don't get by here much ...

and when I do, I rarely post; but, it is always a good read.

[sheshe2]

60. We are not here that much either.

We group here as we need it. Our home. When I first got here,most of my posts were from BOG. I found my voice. I am no longer scared. We post in GD, and fight for our lives at times.

As you know I have posted in AA. I find that to be my home away from home. Another safe haven. I feel safe and I will never wipe my dirty feet there.

[Cha]

40. We have a Barack Obama Group and too bad if you or anyone else doesn't like it. You have the

whole rest of the board to complain about the President.

yeah, it's Rosy 'cause the President can't be told to STFU here and he can't be called a "******* POS used car salesman". Get Over It.

[JI7]

51. it's a fucking website, it's not the fucking world

there is negative shit about him everywhere yet you have a problem with on small group within a larger website being a place for mostly positive things

[Dawgs]

33. Uh, BOG is not meant for telling a whole group of DUers that they are wrong. n/t

[Cha]

41. The BOG is not meant for you to tell us what we can or cannot do, Dawgs.

[Dawgs]

43. And, I didn't.

As a matter of fact, you were the one that told someone to "take it there"..not me.

[Cha]

44. Uh huh, whatev. I don't know what you're going on about but I'm not going to argue with you.

End of story.

[Dawgs]

45. No worries, I know how your type thinks. n/t

[Cha]

46. "your type"? LOL you just nailed "your type".

[freshwest]

49. The OP has a simple premise. You are in the BOG, and moreover, you are very much:

Your slurs against the members of this group are unwarranted. Some post this at the beginning of threads here:

THIS IS THE BOG, IT IS A SAFE HAVEN GROUP CREATED BY THE ADMINISTRATORS OF DU. IT IS A PLACE FOR THOSE WHO SUPPORT DEMOCRATS TO CELEBRATE THE 44TH POTUS, BARACK OBAMA, ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY, ACHIEVEMENTS AND POLICIES.

IT EXISTS FOR THOSE WHO SUPPORT THIS PRESIDENT AND EACH OTHER. PLEASE CHECK THE PINNED THREAD FOR THE SOP (STATEMENT OF PURPOSE) OF THIS GROUP. THIS IS NOT A FORUM.

IF YOU CANNOT RESPECT OBAMA, DEMOCRATS, THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THIS GROUP, OR THE MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP, PLEASE DO NOT POST HERE.

THANKS IN ADVANCE

And since you are a personal acquaintance of Obama, please convey your concerns in person with him. We await hearing your report of his response, as relayed by you.

The SoS has a website of 790 TPP documents translated into over a hundred languages as this is a deal in process. It's not secret and you are reacting to rumors. I am eager to hear what you have to verify your charges, but I will not speak to you again HERE.

[Jamaal510]

62. ...

"And since you are a personal acquaintance of Obama, please convey your concerns in person with him. We await hearing your report of his response, as relayed by you."

[1StrongBlackMan]

54. What will be in TPP that negates what has already been accomplished? n/t

[GoneFishin]

15. One positive step forward for LGBT rights doesn't mean shit if the entire coutry, including

working class LGBT individuals, are tossed into financial hardship so the Wall Street cash hoarding trillionaires can sock away another couple billion at the expense of the working class.

[Thinkingabout]

21. Do you think you would have gotten better treatment from Romney?

[treestar]

24. Yes it does

How can you toss aside any further progress on LGBT rights? Especially with this generalized Wall Street talk. It would be better if we got all the money of the rich and LGBT people were marginalized? Your post does not belong in the BOG, but if you put in in GD you'd find yourself flamed for that.

[GoneFishin]

25. I guess if you are in the top 1% of the LGBT community then you are right.

In which case you are getting your cake and eating it too, and I support your right to love anyone in whatever way fulfills you, but I don't support your right to be a bloodsucker on the economy while the rest of us get closer and closer to eating cat food.

[treestar]

29. Any evidence for this happening?

You have the usual generalizations of doom, yet the economy is doing better. It is not only the 1% doing better as the usual rantings suggest. If that were happening, people would notice.

[GoneFishin]

30. If you are unaware of the growing income disparity as well as the special deference

given to big banks and wall street traders regarding every manner of economic, political, and prosecutorial cronyism at this late date, I am powerless to inform you.

[treestar]

32. The average American does not go around spouting this stuff.

It does not get anyone anywhere. Even Liz Warren doesn't say this kind of thing. No one cares. As long as people have enough, they don't care how rich a few are.

[1StrongBlackMan]

57. +1 ...

except for those that think they should have more BECAUSE someone else has more.

[GoneFishin]

63. Prescisely my point. Many don't. And every resource needed for their daily lives, and which Wall

Street has managed to interpose itself is being used to strangle the middle class.

From 0% interest savings rates to 29% interest credit card rates, speculation on gas, oil, and food, privatized schools and parks.

The middle class is being squeezed by the special monied interests from every conceivable direction and shamelessly ripping off the middle class has come into vogue. Whether the average person espouses it or even realizes who it is that is making their lives harder and harder is irrelevant. It is happening, irrespective of sexual identity.

[treestar]

64. The average person doesn't bash Wall Street as the font of all evil

That's a DU, internet thing.

Most people in the middle class has retirement in stocks, so they want the stock market to be going up. Don't know how many times I've heard my Dad complain his retirement was "going to hell" whenever the stock market goes down. So far, though, he's never ended up out of his house or living less than average middle class lifestyle.

People who don't have that kind of savings wish they did.

I've never heard a real life person complain that Wall Street is stealing from them. They simply want it to be doing well and for themselves to be doing OK or well.

[GoneFishin]

65. You are correct. Most people don't pay attention.

[Cha]

42. You don't even realize how many Positive Steps there are for our LGBT brothers and sisters and

it means everything in the world.

You can rant and rave about "Wall Street" and "trillionaires" all over the board. But, you can't come into the BOG and try and step all over the accomplishments that have been made and appreciated by millions of Americans.

[freshwest]

47. Perhaps he should discuss this POV in the LGBT group?

[Cha]

50. Excellent idea, fresh.. Ask our GLBT Brothers and Sisters what they think about the Accomplishments

of their Rights because of the O Admin.

[OrwellwasRight]

28. Who says progressives can't win elections?

They do and can. You can find about 90 of them in the house, about 10 of them in the Senate, and in myriad governor's mansions and statehouses and city councils and county boards across the country. The question is not whether they can win elections, it is whether the corporate funders of the Democratic party will try to knock them out of presidential primaries by labeling them "extreme" "far out" "not mainstream" etc. etc., like has been done by the MSM to almost every progressive candidate in the presidential primary era.

[easychoice]

52. Yeah Kath! Lets not forget

The Dead Elephant he has been chained to the whole time he has been in office.
He has done it all and succeeded with grace and intelligence,insult after insult.

[hopemountain]

53. yes ~ and

the msm sets the tone for how president obama is reacting to any particular issue to rile up the democrats.

and the president just steps aside and lets them. then, wham! it is called 'rope a dope' or a very well controlled zen of political strategy. [i.e. the xl pipeline & immigration. and we keep hearing the president is saying this or saying that about the tpp. really? i have yet to hear from his lips state exactly whatever the soup du jour is from msm reports on any given day.]

he is still waiting to hear from us and our legislators ~ because he is listening to ALL of us citizen. when we speak or write or whatever - he is listening and uses this to weigh his final decision. he has yet to really let me down as a voter, a democrat and a woman of color, and an environmentalist.

p.s. and to those who cannot find happiness anywhere - have you written letters to your legislators and the white house to give voice to your concerns other than on here? no matter what msm and gop talking heads want to believe - these communications are critical to our democracy.