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Oh, those Pesky Facts. (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2014 OP
:) shenmue Feb 2014 #1
But but mcar Feb 2014 #2
Oh noes~ sheshe2 Feb 2014 #20
and don't forget that pesky furner ... zbdent Feb 2014 #25
That was my first thought after but........but.........but....... raven mad Feb 2014 #42
Much like Lyndon Johnson, this president won't get his due until long after he leaves the WH. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #3
Bingo, Tarheel! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #21
Remember, Rs were saying "You won't know the legacy of Bush43 immediately, maybe decades!" zbdent Feb 2014 #27
Nah, i think you can say that his the Bush43 Presidency is a little less painful to contemplate RVN VET Feb 2014 #35
And all that with his hands tied behind his back treestar Feb 2014 #4
Yup. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #7
Just Think Of What That Chart Could Have Looked Like left on green only Feb 2014 #5
Can't Be......ain't what the Foxer Nuts say....just can't be bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #6
"Worst president in history" Obama is trying to destroy the country"! ErikJ Feb 2014 #33
Thanks for sharing, sheshe. IrishAyes Feb 2014 #8
Irish, I want to believe that they are leaving you in peace sheshe2 Feb 2014 #11
I try not to bang their bony heads together, tempting as it is. IrishAyes Feb 2014 #13
I cannot wait albino65 Feb 2014 #9
This is posted in the Barack Obama Group. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #12
I wasn't aware of this group albino65 Feb 2014 #15
Oh you're more than welcome to post here. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #23
Yes, but you know how they show up treestar Feb 2014 #17
but but but, sheshe2 Feb 2014 #18
Well, they won't show up until they've had their after-dinner fun: pulling wings off flies. IrishAyes Feb 2014 #14
Great chart, sheshe2. brer cat Feb 2014 #10
Thanks brer cat! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #24
positive is good heaven05 Feb 2014 #16
Perhaps the GOP will realize in spite of their best efforts Obama still has a winning record. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #19
K&R tecelote Feb 2014 #22
Some Chart Problems-it was even worse! ErikJ Feb 2014 #26
Exactly what I was thinking. Obama did even more than this chart shows. nt SunSeeker Feb 2014 #29
LOL, love ya SunSeeker! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #31
Right back atcha, sheshe2. SunSeeker Feb 2014 #32
true. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #37
Worst President ever! tweeternik Feb 2014 #28
Kicking the awesomeness of the BOG! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #30
Exactly ... TBF Feb 2014 #34
Reposted on my FB page!! Nice graphic!! hue Feb 2014 #36
And that's just the economy Progressive dog Feb 2014 #38
Two words swilton Feb 2014 #39
Yes sheshe2 Feb 2014 #40
Green technologies are not going to be the panacea for climate change swilton Feb 2014 #43
And despite this, SheilaT Feb 2014 #41
Reality has a well-known liberal bias. KamaAina Feb 2014 #44
K & R Iliyah Feb 2014 #45

mcar

(43,504 posts)
2. But but
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:58 PM
Feb 2014

He's a failure, and weak and a dictator and lawless and hasn't accomplished one thing in his entire presidency!11!

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
27. Remember, Rs were saying "You won't know the legacy of Bush43 immediately, maybe decades!"
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:58 PM
Feb 2014

and yet, they dismiss Obama as a failure.

Of course Bush43 looks better the further away from 1/19/2009 we get ... it's the "Tootsie" effect.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
35. Nah, i think you can say that his the Bush43 Presidency is a little less painful to contemplate
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 08:25 AM
Feb 2014

with each passing year, but Bush43 -- and his Presidency -- were the worst things that ever happened to this country. Time can heal the pain but not the facts.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
5. Just Think Of What That Chart Could Have Looked Like
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:42 PM
Feb 2014

If President Obama had had a congress that was working with him, instead of against him.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
33. "Worst president in history" Obama is trying to destroy the country"!
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:56 AM
Feb 2014

blah blah blah. HAHAHA No wonder nobody with a brain takes them seriously.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
8. Thanks for sharing, sheshe.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:50 PM
Feb 2014

It's a beautiful chart indeed.

I don't know whether some of the local teabaggers have left me in peace a lot more lately because they've given up on me, or whether any of them are beginning to see the light. At least a glimmer.... in the distance....

President Obama's correct, too, about how several years from now when ACA's in full swing, lots of people will NOT want to call it ObamaCare. God forbid POTUS should get credit for anything!

sheshe2

(87,490 posts)
11. Irish, I want to believe that they are leaving you in peace
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 06:56 PM
Feb 2014

because they are indeed seeing a glimmer of light.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
13. I try not to bang their bony heads together, tempting as it is.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:12 PM
Feb 2014

Though I certainly put a stop to that political hate crap they wanted to vomit in Sunday School. Ruined their fun, I did, and I'm not even a member of that congregation - just a regular visitor. Cheeky! You'd think with recent events and GOP scandals, there wouldn't be a single Republican left in town. But I am convinced that HRC could carry this county in '16, if not the whole state. And I am keeping my eyes on midterms, never worry.

sheshe2

(87,490 posts)
12. This is posted in the Barack Obama Group.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:07 PM
Feb 2014

All groups have mission statements and rules. We are not a forum, I hope that is indeed honored.

 

albino65

(484 posts)
15. I wasn't aware of this group
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:16 PM
Feb 2014

You don't get a lot of play on the home page. Maybe I should lurk here.

sheshe2

(87,490 posts)
23. Oh you're more than welcome to post here.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:50 PM
Feb 2014

The rules are easy to follow, albino.

IMHO, we get a lot of play in GD and the home page, sadly not as much as the bashing.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Yes, but you know how they show up
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:26 PM
Feb 2014

because they get it from the Latest Posts and don't notice they are in the BOG.

sheshe2

(87,490 posts)
18. but but but,
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:39 PM
Feb 2014

How could I possibly know!?

Hint!

*************** This is the Barack Obama Group*******************

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
16. positive is good
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:25 PM
Feb 2014
And my POTUS did face unparalleled, immense opposition by a gaggle of hateful bigots disguised as congress people. Better than any RWer would have done, I'm sure.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. Perhaps the GOP will realize in spite of their best efforts Obama still has a winning record.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:39 PM
Feb 2014

We could be years ahead if the GOP did not have to be pulled every inch of the track just to get them to the finish line.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
26. Some Chart Problems-it was even worse!
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 07:57 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:39 AM - Edit history (1)

The Dow went down to 6500 shortly after Obama took over so the 7950 doesnt show the depth of the Bush crash.

I've heard the GDP GROWTH went as low as -9%.

TYPO?-The DEFICIT GDP should be DEFICIT/GDP or DEFICIT-to-GDP or deficit as a percent of GDP.

And the Unemployment went all the way up to 10.5% shortly after Obama took office again not showing the full extent Obama has dug us out.

sheshe2

(87,490 posts)
40. Yes
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 11:41 AM
Feb 2014
Obama Administration Moves Forward on Climate Change Without Congress

President Barack Obama is tired of waiting for Congress to move on legislation to reduce carbon emissions, and his administration is poised to move forward on actions to do just that—including a move that will effectively eliminate the possibility of any new coal plant opening in the United States, experts say.

"We can choose to believe that Superstorm Sandy, and the most severe drought in decades, and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a freak coincidence," Obama said during his State of the Union address. "Or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science—and act before it's too late."

snip

If Congress won't act soon to protect future generations, I will," he said. "I will direct my Cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy."

But what can Obama do?

Industry insiders, lobbyists, and experts say the president has already gotten the ball rolling on a host of administrative actions that he was likely alluding to in his speech.

James McGarry, a policy analyst at the Chesapeake Climate Action Network, a regional group that supports climate change legislation, says that thanks to a 2007 Supreme Court decision forcing the Environmental Protection Agency to move ahead with regulating carbon dioxide and some other gases as pollutants, the Obama administration is already working unilaterally to curb emissions but their biggest moves to date are imminent.

snip


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/02/22/obama-administration-moves-forward-on-climate-change-without-congress

ENERGY Clean Energy Experts to Offer Obama a Path Forward Without CongressA new report will suggest 200 executive actions on climate and energy.

The report stems from a 90-minute meeting Obama held with Ritter and other energy experts last March. Since that meeting, Ritter has been in regular contact with the White House and he and other experts who were involved briefed Cabinet members on the report last week.

While he doesn't have any plans to meet with Obama again, Ritter said he does plan to meet with John Podesta, Obama's new senior adviser on these issues, and others sometime in the next week or so.

One White House official praised the report. "The administration is committed to moving to cleaner energy solutions, and welcomes this set of recommendations for moving forward on energy efficiency, renewables, advanced vehicles, and other key energy priorities," White House spokesman Matt Lehrich said in an email.

The Environmental Protection Agency's carbon regulations for power plants are the cornerstone of Obama's climate agenda, and they certainly draw the most criticism. But the White House is simultaneously implementing many other components of his plan announced in June, and the report to be released Tuesday will show the breadth of what an administration can do without Congress.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/what-obama-can-do-on-climate-change-without-congress-20140120
 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
43. Green technologies are not going to be the panacea for climate change
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 03:27 PM
Feb 2014

With the planned obsolescence and waste embedded in the system, changing the light bulbs and driving a few hybrid vehicles contributes to the GHG emissions.....There is no way to 'grow our way' out of the environmental crisis no matter how many statistics big business produces. Big business initiatives such as fuel efficient cars for example just cause people to dry farther with more cars.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/21743-missing-the-marx-more-or-less-on-intellectual-failure-and-environmental-catastrophe#.Uvf8yXMHtWA.email

Since the initial climate change summit at Rio de Janeiro in 1992, administrations from both parties have worked to undermine the emissions reductions and weaken participation by other states. This was especially true of the Obama Administration's behavior at the Copenhagen Summit when he worked behind closed doors to undermine participation...Now it is coming out about the NSA spying on the participants. Despite SoS Kerry's rhetoric, there has been limited actions by this administration to reduce climate change - in fact by pushing the Trans XL and TPP, their initiatives will make climate emissions worse.

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/11/20/finance_climate_action_not_fossil_fuel

Look at who Obama appoints as Energy Secretary - big ties to BP and fracking and nuclear industries...

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/26/energy_nominee_ernest_moniz_criticized_for


http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/13/this_should_not_come_as_a

Despite the rosy scenario that these pro-corporate (and let's be honest they are all pro-corporate statistics and come from big business), the statistics for the 99% of the US population are worse....The unemployment numbers for example don't reflect the lack of employment for the people who have stopped looking for work...They also don't measure the rising gap in
income inequality like life expectancy which is a derivative of the rising inequality..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

And I will not even mention the statistics on war and peace and how our military empire is expanding and has expanded over the past 5 years, nor will I mention Obama's being the first Democratic Party president to put social security and medicare cuts on the table....and to privatize public education.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
41. And despite this,
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 12:19 PM
Feb 2014

a remarkable number of posters here say that the economy is just as bad as ever, no one gets hired anymore, especially no one over 60. Or over 50. Or over 40. It's completely impossible to retire, ever. And so on.

I'm with you, however. Things have gotten better. They can still get a lot better and I hope they will.

When I was much younger I was taught that revolutions were most likely to occur not when things were at their worst, but only after things had started to get better.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
45. K & R
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 05:52 PM
Feb 2014

Corporate media won't cover this. GOPers in congress instead of creating jobs, helping the unemployment, cutting social issues, fucking with women rights and her body, fucking with voting rights, won't do a damn thing about immigration, gun control, y'know the things that would benefit common Americans, but house gopers are securing a bill "stopping the President from overreaching" bill. What a load of shit.

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