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Barack Obama. "He no longer belongs to us- he belongs to the ages." (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2013 OP
Wonder if he knew he was invoking Lincoln? Myrina Dec 2013 #1
i have no doubt that he knew what he was repeating. mopinko Dec 2013 #2
Edwin M. Stanton, Lincoln's Secretary of War. Aristus Dec 2013 #3
"It was the perfect thing for him to say." sheshe2 Dec 2013 #6
I'd stake your life on it. IrishAyes Dec 2013 #9
President Obama has Madiba's qualities Cha Dec 2013 #4
About his dance on the Boston stage, Cha. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #5
Oh thank you for that, she! Cha Dec 2013 #7
Bingo! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #8
Sorry as I am that we had to lose Mandela, IrishAyes Dec 2013 #10
Amen treestar Dec 2013 #11
Whenever I used to feel sorry for myself about something, IrishAyes Dec 2013 #12
Hey Irish~ sheshe2 Dec 2013 #13

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
1. Wonder if he knew he was invoking Lincoln?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 08:19 PM
Dec 2013

As Prez Lincoln was pronounced dead, one of the men in the room (I don't recall whom) said the "belongs to the ages" thing about Lincoln.

Wonder if POTUS was intentionally drawing that parallel in light of both men being seen as liberators.

mopinko

(71,716 posts)
2. i have no doubt that he knew what he was repeating.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 08:25 PM
Dec 2013

half the school kids in illinois would recognize that quote.

Aristus

(68,273 posts)
3. Edwin M. Stanton, Lincoln's Secretary of War.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 08:55 PM
Dec 2013

It was a very gracious and poetic thing for him to say about Lincoln. They didn't get along too well, except as partners managing the war together.

Good for President Obama. It was the perfect thing for him to say.

Cha

(305,137 posts)
4. President Obama has Madiba's qualities
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:09 PM
Dec 2013

exactly right, she~ Mahalo!

Nelson Mandela invited the guards at his prison on Robben Island to his Inauguration and he didn't want to punish Botha and De Klerk. That's another thing PBO and Mandela have in common.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
5. About his dance on the Boston stage, Cha.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:22 PM
Dec 2013

He is known for it...



His sculpture was inspired by L Ron Hubbard’s statement: "From Southern Africa will spring the next great civilization on this planet..." and Nelson Mandela’s work with children, his attitude towards our young achievers and the joy he expresses in their achievements.

His dance, the "Madiba Jive", symbolized for the artist this joy, which itself is inspiring and is what communicates the "Madiba Magic" that he is so well known for.

http://www.thetastudios.co.za/madiba-magic-nelson-mandela-statue.html


When Mandela was running for the presidency in 1994, he knew that symbols mattered as much as substance. He was never a great public speaker, and people often tuned out what he was saying after the first few minutes. But it was the iconography that people understood. When he was on a platform, he would always do the toyi-toyi, the township dance that was an emblem of the struggle. But more important was that dazzling, beatific, all-inclusive smile.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024143721

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Amen
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 12:56 PM
Dec 2013

And it was good that he got to see the apartheid fall and be part of that.

A good long life, especially considering all those years in prison!

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
12. Whenever I used to feel sorry for myself about something,
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 01:43 PM
Dec 2013

I could almost hear a voice in my head asking, "Are you in jail with Mandela?" Helped my perspective.

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